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Fun Guy

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bird seed question
« on: June 28, 2009, 05:24:55 PM »

So I made the step up to wbs.  First two jars went pretty good but I followed a tek that said to soak them 24 hrs and then simmer them twenty min before 90 pc sterilization.  Got myc growth and was going good but I am pretty sure that they were too wet.  I went ahead and cased them after two weeks and the myc had slowed down but some around the edges was looking like paste.  When I opened them they had a fermentation smell to them.  I cased them and am seeing progressive growth but the whiskey smell is still there. 
     So on my second try I found a tek that said just soaking 24 hrs was good.  I skipped the simmer and followed all the same steps, hit them up with a dmk lc that I had made.  But they look to be bone dry and 5 days in I have like little white dots that almost look like sand all over them but no normal myc growth.  If they are too dry what will happen and should I dump and start over?  Any help here will be appreciated.  PW I know you work with wbs.

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heres some pics but I dont know if you can see anything.  Hard to capture dots are so small.  Maybe u can see wetness or lack of though.  thanks again.
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Re: bird seed question
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2009, 05:28:00 PM »

Oh one thing I forgot,  The casing with the fermented smelling wbs that is growing now.  Mushrooms off this will still be safe yes?
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Re: bird seed question
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2009, 05:46:23 PM »

Yo Fun Guy,
  Sorry to drop in, and I may be wrong, but I am thinking the simmering was one of the vital steps in your preparation.  Something like a "rinse"?  Or perhaps a hydration step.
  I don't generally do too much pre-soaking anymore, though I have in the past with millet/rye mixture.  I have gone from soaking to pc, but never experienced that smell.  What I do know for sure is,... Foul odors are generally not good.
  Sour, fermenting, rotting.  Kind of the same to me. 
****But, I am interested in hearing what PW has to say myself, so don't dump them until we here his verdict!
 ~Malabar
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Re: bird seed question
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2009, 07:42:03 PM »

yeah the simmering was a hydration step in that tek.
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Re: bird seed question
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2009, 11:40:59 PM »

So I made the step up to wbs.  First two jars went pretty good but I followed a tek that said to soak them 24 hrs and then simmer them twenty min before 90 pc sterilization.  Got myc growth and was going good but I am pretty sure that they were too wet.  I went ahead and cased them after two weeks and the myc had slowed down but some around the edges was looking like paste.  When I opened them they had a fermentation smell to them.  I cased them and am seeing progressive growth but the whiskey smell is still there. 

>>You over hydrated your WBS, try simmering on lower heat. Don't forget to rinse really well b4 & after, your jars looked kinda slurry. How long ago did you innoc the slurried jars? Ive had a few whiskey smelling jars & I just toss em n do it over. Also, did you take care of all the floaties?

So on my second try I found a tek that said just soaking 24 hrs was good.  I skipped the simmer and followed all the same steps, hit them up with a dmk lc that I had made.  But they look to be bone dry and 5 days in I have like little white dots that almost look like sand all over them but no normal myc growth.  If they are too dry what will happen and should I dump and start over?  Any help here will be appreciated.
 
>> Simmering is part of hydrating the WBS(you need to do it). All you did was soak for 24 hrs?? & you diddnt add any water with the WBS before you put it into jars to PC.? That's why this batch turned out bone dry, dump them and do-over.

PW
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Re: bird seed question
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2009, 01:49:10 AM »

I've had the same thing with my attempts at WBS. The grain was too wet and went sour. Throw it out. Join the club.  :mellow:
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