Choice of Milo or Millet from feed store?

Started by lazylightning78, October 25, 2009, 04:20:19 PM

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lazylightning78

What say you?   I know they are both grains....but I would like to know which one is easier to prep and if the simple tek of just adding water and pc'ing is still viable after all these years.   I will be doing these in qt. jars    Nice site, btw

malabar

Lazy,
  I would lean more towards using the Millet over the Milo.   As for the preparation, soak the grain briefly , ( about 20 minutes) then strain the grain and PC.   It only needs to be moist. Just under  "field capacity" .
  ~Malabar   :mellow:
My Kung Fu may suck,.....  But, my Shrooms Kick Ass!

lazylightning78

my 930 will hold 17 qts   so just put it in my 5 gallon bucket with a strainer lid  maybe rinse once and then soak in tap water for twenty minutes    fill my jars 2/3 and pc for 90?

malabar

Lazy,
  It sounds as though you are set to roll.  Go for it my friend and GL.
    ~Malabar    :mellow:
My Kung Fu may suck,.....  But, my Shrooms Kick Ass!

lazylightning78

Basic millet or birdseed recipe for 1 pint jar
100g (3.5 oz~140 ml~0.59cup) birdseed
60-70g (60-70 ml) water
knife tip full of gypsum (optional)      you think it would end up being the same as this    should i add a little gypsum?

lazylightning78

and obviously i should let it strain for a while if i don't just add the water     am i thinking too much here....all those cats on the other board are so enamored with all the soaks and simmers and adding coffee, etc  ugh    info overload over there

malabar

Lazy,
  Not only are you thinking too much, but you are trying to incorporate too many tek sources.
  If you are using WBS, that will also involve a soak.  Probably overnight, as to catch and remove those Endospores, Sunflower seeds, and Floaters, then a simmer and a couple of rinses/strain prior to the PC.
   **As for Gypsum,....  I have Never used it.  It's optional, so if you just want to spend your cash, I suppose you can add it.
  I suppose the ratios you listed are good.   I have been doing this so long, I don't even think I personally own a measuring cup any longer.
   ~Malabar     :mellow:
 
My Kung Fu may suck,.....  But, my Shrooms Kick Ass!

lazylightning78

so just soak my millet for how long would you recommend...and then strain it til the outside is pretty dry  (not sticking to the spoon test) strain for a couple hours?  sorry for the elementary questions

malabar

Lazy,
  Just shake the strainer for a minute or until it stops dripping and load the jars.  PC for 45 minutes, and away you go.
  ~Malabar   :mellow:
My Kung Fu may suck,.....  But, my Shrooms Kick Ass!

lazylightning78

I just had terrible luck with wbs in these new fangled spawn bags......and getting back to my qt jar roots......I remember my old teacher just poured grain in    eyeballed some water   no filter discs..nothing   and away we went    it's just easy to get overloaded with so much info out here now   Thanks for your concern and your replies

malabar

Lazy,
  Sorry to hear about you and the bags,.  I know nothing about them.  But, I do spawn for bulk to straw or compost in Oven Baking Bags .
  As for your old "teacher", we must be from the same school.  Though I at one time I would measure and sweat out the small details, now it's routine and I trust my eyes which have seen Many a successful grow in these years.
  What I do know is,.......  If it works and ain't broke, Don't try to re-invent it!
     Life is Good!
    GL
     ~Malabar    :mellow:
My Kung Fu may suck,.....  But, my Shrooms Kick Ass!

lazylightning78

 ^_^      I'll check in tomorrow     Peace

dub504

Grains can seem a little daunting at first. There are a lot of different Teks out there. A good rule might be to soak grains overnight that are not for human consumption i.e. WBS. The grains that are ready for consumption like BR, Barley, Oats etc. from a grocery, soak 20 min.