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drhusky

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New fungifriend with some questions :)
« on: October 23, 2009, 12:57:47 PM »

Hey guys i've been reading a lot in the forum to find some questions already answered and everything but still can't figure out the main question I have:

1: I wanna buy spores on the internet but I live in Georgia and no not the one in the US so it's pretty far with no local spore vendor. So, i wanted to know how long can the spores be good to go while in a syringe? or the spore prints? I mean if i request something from the US it takes usually 30 days to come here... so will all the spores be unusable once here ?

PS: I don't know any of you guys yet but damn you guys are like a family and I would love to be adopted in this wonderful warm family of fungifun :) you guys are great :)
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Re: New fungifriend with some questions :)
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2009, 01:16:54 PM »

drhusky,
  How are you? 
 Let me get this straight,....  You are in Georgia,...  Like near Russia?   If that be the case, wouldn't it be easier, and perhaps faster to order from a supplier in Amsterdam, or the Netherlands?
  I would tend to believe you would face less issues as far as Customs , and Inspections of your packages.   I'm just guessing, so I could be wrong.
  As for the "shelf life",....   If proper care is taken as far as storage is concerned, ( refrigeration for the LC or syringes or a dark cool place for spores ) you can be sure of at least a year of viability.
  If you are just worrying about the shipping time.  You are all good, unless it's going to be over 100F for the next 30 days and they are sitting in a truck or warehouse.
  By the way,.....  Welcome to the Forum.
    GL
     ~Malabar 
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Re: New fungifriend with some questions :)
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2009, 01:20:56 PM »

Welcome to the forum Dr. Glad you found the search function useful, some newcomers don't. Spore prints and syringes are good for many, many months I wouldn't worry about the amount of time that passes before you get them. I would worry about the level of heat that they are exposed to while en route. If it's a syringe I'd worry about it getting damaged causing it to bust or leak. If it's a print, I'd worry about the foil getting ripped and allowing contams in.

That's all I can think of. Wait for the others .02.

Later,
Deadneck
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Re: New fungifriend with some questions :)
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2009, 01:25:40 PM »

Hey Malabar and Deadneck,
 
thanks for the fast replies :)
 I don't really think customs will be a problem, I was more worried about shipping time.
so what you are saying Deadneck is the worst case scenario right ? don't scare me like that  :D :D
 
your answers helped me a lot thanks :)
 
oh and thank you both for the welcome.
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Re: New fungifriend with some questions :)
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2009, 01:58:14 PM »

Hey Dr.

I'm just trying to imagine the long journey your package will take. I guess I'd call it the worst case scenario. I'd just make sure that whoever is sending you the package put plenty of padding/cushioning for your little buddies to be comfortable on the long ride. Preventative measures would be wise to take so you only have to do this once. Patience is a great skill to have in this hobby and yours will be tested before you even get your spores. This forum will have your back though!

Best of luck,
Deadneck
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Re: New fungifriend with some questions :)
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2009, 02:21:33 PM »

hey Dn,
 
well here we go on for the waiting :) i'm getting happier by the minute lol,
 
anyways I ordered a syringe of B+, I think it will be a good start for me.
I order from spores101 and as you said, I hope they put plenty of cushioning for my little buddies :)
 
well anyways I'll start buying all that will be needed for when I get my syringe :)
I was thinking of making a step by step tutorial for new comers like me :) might be helpfull I'll make one big post once i harvest my last flush :) but I'll keep this thread going to tell you guys what happens :)
 
and thanks for the support :)
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Re: New fungifriend with some questions :)
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2009, 03:56:06 AM »

Hey guys!
 
ok I found the heater, perlite, thermometer, water pump, air pump, now I haven't looked for the grains yet but I am sure i wanna make it with grains :) so anyways i know I will find some millets. but i couldn't find vermiculate for making the casing. anyways i searched the forum for alternate casing formulas but didn't find any topic really making clear statements. could you guys enlighten me about that please ? i mean what kind of casing is good what kind of alternate versions for casings exist ?, i have access to cow dung if needed but i'd rather have something less smelly :D but i don't care if it has to be then it has to be :)))))
 
 
thanks in advance for the answers :)
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Re: New fungifriend with some questions :)
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2009, 02:09:17 AM »

why nobody answering ? :(
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Re: New fungifriend with some questions :)
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2009, 10:14:46 AM »

Ive heard of people substituting perlite for vermiculite, but i have never done this myself.   you should also check out

http://www.shroomery.org/20/Casing-Procedures

There is lots of information on there as well.
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Re: New fungifriend with some questions :)
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2009, 03:09:10 PM »

You could spawn your grains to a bulk substrate like straw. I've read that you don't have to case that (I always have though). You don't want to use Perlite in your casing though. You could case with just straight Peat Moss or coco choir. I have even heard of Worm Castings being used for casing. Look around a little harder for vermiculite. It should be available at a garden or feed store and I'm sure you could find it online easily as well.
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Re: New fungifriend with some questions :)
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2009, 03:50:12 PM »

Drhusky,
  I think Dub has given you some of the best advise.  A 50/50 blend of Coir/Peat should do well for a casing, and you will get good color indication, for moisture.
  Back in the day, when there was the cancer scare concerning vermiculite, I had cased with pearlite, and a pearlite/peat mix.  I achieved decent results, but it gets a bit tricky determining how much moisture is retained in the micro climate.  Using pearlite in casing is a risky proposition, and it's very easy to suffocate or drown your grow.
   ~Malabar   :mellow:
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Re: New fungifriend with some questions :)
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2009, 01:23:05 AM »

wow thanks guys :)
 
dub, could i use just peat ? instead of peatmoss ?
 
i'm still looking for vermiculite though someone told me it was possible to get here but kinda tricky to find. well i'll keep looking for that anyways :)

thanks for the answers guys you really help me :)
 
 
I bought the thermometer, the heater, the air pump, and tomorrow I'm going to buy my FCs ^^ I'll start with 2 FC that can hold 2 plastic container's each.
ill start with rye seeds or millet whichever I find first I think and then maybe make a 50/50 rye/millet and for casing well if peat is enough ill get that if not ill try to get peatmoss.
I'll put perlite on the bottom, and I'll make 6 holes on top to make the CO2 get the hell out of there :))) anyways I think the air pump will give enough fresh air instead of making holes on the bottom aswell. ill put the FCs inside a container of the same size that will have water in it aswell as the heater and make it to 23C and ill use another chamber and heater when incubating to make it to 28C i think the little buddies will have a good environement to grow in. :)
was also thinking of putting a little plant in front of the air pump to get some O2 boost. but not sure on that last part about the plant if anyone got an idea please tell me :)
 
so what do you think ? :) i think im a good mushy host :D
 
 
PS: sorry for all the smilies i just love them :D
« Last Edit: October 26, 2009, 06:05:40 AM by drhusky »
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Re: New fungifriend with some questions :)
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2009, 12:53:15 PM »

Peat and Peat Moss are the same thing. So, yes you can use that.
Just make sure it is the brown spongy soil looking stuff and not Sphagnum sheet moss. You might want to add some hydrated lime to neutralize the PH of the casing. Peat moss is on the acidic side. If money is tight don't bother w/ it. A lot of growers don't use it. I do. It's how I learned it, so I stick to what works for me.
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Re: New fungifriend with some questions :)
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2009, 06:52:57 PM »

Do you have a pressure cooker? I didn't see that in your list.
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Re: New fungifriend with some questions :)
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2009, 07:36:40 AM »

Hey guys sorry have been a bit busy from work :S
 
Dub,
Nope I don't have a PC but It won't be too difficult to find I think... anyways can I get away without having to buy a PC ?
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Re: New fungifriend with some questions :)
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2009, 08:09:10 AM »

Drhusky,
  If you are working with grains, the PC is one of your Primary tools.  You can't even consider working with grains w/o it.
   ~Malabar    :mellow:
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Re: New fungifriend with some questions :)
« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2009, 11:42:30 AM »

Get a pressure cooker...
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Re: New fungifriend with some questions :)
« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2009, 12:10:36 PM »

Even lil' ol me has a PC.  I pretty much thought it a requirement of this whole process =)
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Re: New fungifriend with some questions :)
« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2009, 05:40:49 PM »

You don't need a PC to do the PF tek. You can use a large pot of boiling water instead. That is the least expensive way to get started.
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