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Re: Question on ph tek brown rice cakes.
« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2009, 01:46:34 PM »

  Cool enough, Cugak.   Keep your conditions stable and you'll probably see that next flush in about a week.
   ~Malabar   :mellow:
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Re: Question on ph tek brown rice cakes.
« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2009, 05:39:49 PM »

Aye aye aye, the dude is confused.  ON LOCKDOWN holy crap batman!!!!
Dude, if your doing BRF CAKES go to the local health food/organic store ie. wholefoods, etc.  Buy a bag of BROWN RICE FLOUR.  Combine (the tek gives you the proper amounts) with vermiculite, PC in jars for an hour at 15lbs. I usually just take the PC off of the stove top and let the jars cool in the PC overnight.  They are then room temp. and you can remove and move on to prepare to innoculate.  The tek says it all, doing it all right is the key.  Make sure you are in a clean environment.  Use 99% alcohol, lysol etc.  I have become accustom to useing a hepa filter, to do work in front of keeping my work area clean and sterile.  (this was a clue from a good friend).  Like I said read the PF TEK. I hate writing TEKS so just read it.  Read it -  Read it. And really ask CLEAR questions so that others can give you the correct answers or advice.  That has been my expierence.  I am simple grower since my 'homies' are herbal users, where as I prefer the love of shrooms, so I don't do any 'large' grows.   Well I did once, and still have them stored for all the rainy days ahead~!!
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Re: Question on ph tek brown rice cakes.
« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2009, 06:09:41 PM »

Excellent Shroomzer!   Everytime I thought I had deciphered the code it appeared we were at the beginning of the maze again,....   :huh:
  Thank you,...   Once again,  Large and In Charge!     
     ~Malabar    :mellow:
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Re: Question on ph tek brown rice cakes.
« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2009, 06:22:01 PM »

HaHa Malabar!!  I was confused too for a about 5 minutes.  Although he keeps stating he is using brown rice, I wasn't sure if he was grinding his own rice into flour or just using it as straight grain and that would be out of my league. I prefer to buy the BRF, cause I am 'the simple mind' haha ;), and at times a bit lazy!!  ^_^  But I get the job done and get what I need out of it with very little loss anymore.
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Re: Question on ph tek brown rice cakes.
« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2009, 06:43:29 PM »

It's all good Shroomzer,
  I just have so much going on right now, I'm almost running on empty, and I know if he's using BRF, you are the Boss with the cakes!
  I hope you can get him straight,..........  of course it would help if he researched One tek and stayed the course.
  I'm sure if he strays, you can get him back on track. 
   ~Malabar   :mellow:
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Re: Question on ph tek brown rice cakes.
« Reply #25 on: October 29, 2009, 06:54:51 PM »

ok so ive decided to allow the plain brown rice to colonize and what happens happens. but ive decided to buy a substrate online, preferably at ralphsters, is there any substrates sold for the pf tek or no? is a pressure cooker still needed? ive been looking at shredded straw.
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Re: Question on ph tek brown rice cakes.
« Reply #26 on: October 29, 2009, 07:10:48 PM »

So your using the brown rice and reading the grain tek? You can get jars with substrate, but they are not reliable.  With shipping and handling they are highly subseptable(sp) to contams and I don't recommend that.  Read the TEKS  - make your own, you'll have way better results. IMO.  And Yes a pressure cooker is indeed needed.  I thought you were doing BRF cakes using the PF TEK ... so this is out of my league .... Malabar, Fattrout or others that use grain methods can answer those type questions better, well if they can decipher what it is you are looking for.  Ask CLEAR cut questions and you may get the correct answers and opinions.

Malabar - we are at the beginning of the maze again ......
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Re: Question on ph tek brown rice cakes.
« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2009, 07:19:30 PM »

Shroomzer,
  Are you felling me Now!?!???     :huh:
 I thought I was pretty good with all of the codes I decipher with the grandkids,....     ^_^   And, for a while I thought perhaps it's an "old" thing,... or perhaps being tired,....... But, now I'm feeling a little better with the idea that I was "close" to understanding what was happening here,....  I think.  lol
  So, if Lover is using grains, I think reading the grain teks and what we have given him should put him on the high road.
  **And, by all means,.....that Pressure Cooker is a Must!   
  ~Malabar   :mellow:
   
    >>  Hold my hand and run with me Shroomzer,...  I'll get us out of here!  LOL      -_-
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Re: Question on ph tek brown rice cakes.
« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2009, 07:24:18 PM »

Malabar .. and I thought I was pretty good at the deciphering  .. looks like I am the one a slippin' here.. LOL~!  I got confused when he mentioned he was going to 'grind the brown rice' .. aye aye aye ... I was thinking he was going for the 'BRF' - his questions are not 'clear cut'.  My bad.... ;)  At least we do agree the Pressure Cooker is a Must!!
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Re: Question on ph tek brown rice cakes.
« Reply #29 on: October 29, 2009, 07:24:54 PM »

That is a waste of money! When you use whole grains you have to use a pressure cooker. When the pressure is raised so too is the boiling point of the water. So, you get a higher temperature and proper sterilization of the grains.

Whole grains or PF Tek, it doesn't matter. You can use either to spawn to a bulk substrate. If you go the straw route or some other bulk sub you will have to pasteurize it. After it is drained and cooled you can layer or mix in your spawn. You can buy straw at a local crafts store or feed store for cheaper than an online vendor.

That being said, the PF Tek is a method that is supposed to be easy. Once the cakes are colonized you can basically fruit them as is. It's a good place to start. If you learn how to case them that's the extra step you can use w/ grains or other teks.

You really just need to read a bit more. I suggest www.shroomery.org
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Re: Question on ph tek brown rice cakes.
« Reply #30 on: October 29, 2009, 07:25:36 PM »

hey love, check out this video..
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3286686859329905674#
it's a wealth of info... its 1 hour long but its wroth the time, and it looks like you have the time...lol  :ph34r:
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Re: Question on ph tek brown rice cakes.
« Reply #31 on: October 29, 2009, 07:27:30 PM »

ok, so as for the brown rice method, all steps are the same except you need a pressure cooker if its still whole rice? and there is no substrates for the pf tek online? and what is the tek called when you let them grow in a metal container, if i buy a substrate and its clean does that make it any better?
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Re: Question on ph tek brown rice cakes.
« Reply #32 on: October 29, 2009, 07:29:04 PM »

  You see Shroomzer,....
    It's like Tag-Team Wrestling!  lol
        :ph34r:
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Re: Question on ph tek brown rice cakes.
« Reply #33 on: October 29, 2009, 07:30:03 PM »

That is called casing. The substrates they sell are not any better than making your own! You will still have to pasteurize any substrate that you buy, like straw. The thing is you don't need straw to do this. You need to learn the basics first. You could case whole grains or break up PF cakes, case them and still get fine fruits.
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Re: Question on ph tek brown rice cakes.
« Reply #34 on: October 29, 2009, 07:36:57 PM »

what the FUCK... :huh:    :huh:      :huh: :huh:
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Re: Question on ph tek brown rice cakes.
« Reply #35 on: October 29, 2009, 07:40:00 PM »

Fattrout,
  You are in Deep woods now!  Shroomzer and I just escaped!  I hope you brought a flashlight,...  lol
  ~Malabar   :mellow:
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Re: Question on ph tek brown rice cakes.
« Reply #36 on: October 29, 2009, 07:41:55 PM »

LOL yeah Malabar tag team .. ;)

uh Loverdude ... READ THE TEK.  MAKE YOUR OWN SUBSTRATE IT AIN'T THAT HARD, LOOK AT THE VIDEO TROUT PUT UP .. DUDE DID YOU NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS SAID TO YOU ABOUT BUYING A SUBSTRATE?  NOT GOOD, N O T - G O O D.  (and I thought I was dense at times)  :rolleyes:
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Re: Question on ph tek brown rice cakes.
« Reply #37 on: October 29, 2009, 07:49:59 PM »

Note to self. "Play nice dub" :angry: Gotta bite my tongue.
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Re: Question on ph tek brown rice cakes.
« Reply #38 on: October 29, 2009, 07:52:33 PM »

Shroomzer,
  Be safe my friend.  Back away from the Thread,.....     It's Dark, and Dangerous! 
 I think I will stay away myself.  I'm starting to feel a bit "retarded",... lol
   ~Malabar   :mellow:
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Re: Question on ph tek brown rice cakes.
« Reply #39 on: October 29, 2009, 08:01:59 PM »

Malabar .. I'm done, so done .. but I was just gonna pop a bowl of popcorn and sit back and see what else 'spawned' from lovaboy haha...

DUB - LMAO!!!

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