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Author Topic: Hi all, need some advice and help to speed up mushroom growth, thx alot  (Read 5160 times)

amaturehelpmepliz

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well basically i was thinking about purchasing everything from sterile gloves, chambers, substrate, spores etc, but after researching on internet, i came across with this
http://www.elephantos.com/en/smart-shop/mushroom-cultivation/growkits/xl-growkit-mexicana-a.html?osCsid=0e1e8e16bf0ffc28eaec593631e45278

i have read from many sites the chance of contamination is significantly high for beginners. so why not jst buy the complete kit and take no risk in contamination, and possible waste of time and money,

but at the same time the kit from elephantos seems to be expensive  :/ compared to if i buy everything my self,(for repetitive use) here is a list i made

clear plastic storage box
hygrometer
perlite
substrate
spores
aluminum foil
desinfectant
sterile gloves
black bin bag
hydrogen peroxide
distilled water

app cost = 70 pound = 80 euro, but with no guarantee that i will not get contamination....


so i think it might be wise to go for the 99.00 elephanto kit,(plus 12 pound shipping cost) which already has spore in it.

what do u guys think ?  :huh: or is there any other sites with the same kit but cheaper ??? :huh:

but the main disadvantage is it may take up to 4 month, until i can harvest from the kit, app 200 - 300 gram, ( which is not bad,) but again .. guaranteed no contamination. lots of plus and cons  ^_^

also on this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBgfhsw4qHk&NR=1

growing from pins to mature fruits in approxamately 52 hours, i was wondering how did they achive that ? is it becuase of the light ? :huh: so is it possible for me to do the same, basically put the kit(bag) under the " light " (SODIUM ?)

the elephanto kit its a sealed bag... with encourage high level of co2 with slow down the growth of shrooms (if im right) so wot if i cut some hole once the pin start to appear. but again, risk of contamination.

 -_-anyways

sorry for the long question and ta for reading, any comments are appreciated  ^_^








update after reading first 3 replies  ^_^

thx a lot for your comments

they are indeed truffle, and i have never had truffles before, so i might actually go for the bag becuase i live in university owned house and i might want to keep as much discretion as i can :)
(we dont get those house inspections till may/june 2010 :rolleyes:)

truffle seems " ugly " compared to mushrooms, and they grow underground,

so how do i know when they are ready to be harvest ? :huh:

more ticks pliz  ^_^


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« Last Edit: December 08, 2009, 07:50:56 PM by amaturehelpmepliz »
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cugak

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Re: Hi all, need some advice and help to speed up mushroom growth, thx alot
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2009, 02:58:40 PM »

U can make your fruting chamber from a cardboard box! My advice is, that you do it your self! And its fun! Buy some spores, some cheap hepa filter cleaning air purifier, vermiculite, perlite, jars, pressure cooker, alcohol, desinfection spray, some coir (coco or palm), some trays for casing and start with grains and doing g2g transfers! It will cost u some 200 euros but youll be good for long time, except buying grains( wbs, millet...)
And shit, i just made full member,he he
« Last Edit: December 08, 2009, 03:06:39 PM by cugak »
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Re: Hi all, need some advice and help to speed up mushroom growth, thx alot
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2009, 06:03:47 PM »

OK, ill try to answer as best I can...lol

You will get alot of replies here saying to make your own, and do most of these things by yourself. It will in the long run be cheaper if you intend to grow more times than once.

As for the growbag, You will be growing a type of truffle, which generally takes longer than regular mushrooms. Which is why it will take 4 months as opposed to the EQ Time Lapse video you cited. The video doesnt grow shrooms that quickly because of the light, it was just in the proper conditions. Most healthy shrooms will mature at a similar rate, except for truffles.

As for the co2 question, The bag APPEARS to be fitted with a filter patch, which provides Gas Exchange. I didnt see them mention this patch in the description of the item, so you may want to ask if you go thru with buying this item.

If I were you, i'd do a little more research before I jumped in and bought something. You seem to be getting Truffles and regular Mushrooms mixed up. If you want Mushrooms like the one's in the video, then this growbag is not for you. Do more research.

Keep reading and Good Luck.  ^_^
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Re: Hi all, need some advice and help to speed up mushroom growth, thx alot
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2009, 06:10:01 PM »

You also should consider the fact that just because the information posted on a website claims that everything is "pre-sterilized" you have no way of actually knowing that to be true. The best way to be sure that you are working with sterile products is to do it yourself. It is not that difficult to do and much more rewarding IMO. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
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Re: Hi all, need some advice and help to speed up mushroom growth, thx alot
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2009, 08:55:07 PM »

I'd have to agree with MT.. while the website says everything is pre-sterilized, it goes through many temp. variations before it gets to you etc.  I would do it yourself and that way you know all is clean and good.  It isn't that hard to do, heck if I can do it anyone can!
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Re: Hi all, need some advice and help to speed up mushroom growth, thx alot
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2009, 09:04:05 PM »

yep, just do it yourself. when i 1st started this hobby, i did 1 of those 100.00 kit. all but 1 jar had contamination. it was a waste of time and money...
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Re: Hi all, need some advice and help to speed up mushroom growth, thx alot
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2009, 09:27:17 PM »

I don't know what web sites you are getting your info from, but every site I've read says mushrooms are easy to grow. They are!
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