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andres

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Panaeolus Cyanescens
« on: December 14, 2009, 08:39:08 PM »

I am growing a very small and potent type of psylocibin mushroom (Panaeolus Cyanescens) in brown rice cakes... The mycelium has been trying to colonize my jars for 60 days and it's not quite there yet... wondering if there's any way I can help them out...
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Re: Panaeolus Cyanescens
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2009, 08:51:29 PM »

Grains would be better to start pans out on. Then you prob need to spawn to straw, case then fruit.
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Re: Panaeolus Cyanescens
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2009, 09:46:31 PM »

Thank you dub 504, would you mind elaborating? "spawn to straw, case then fruit."
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Re: Panaeolus Cyanescens
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2009, 04:50:38 AM »

Pans are just a little more involved. Check this out. http://www.shroomery.org/34/Panaeolus-Cyanescens
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Re: Panaeolus Cyanescens
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2009, 07:23:48 AM »

Thanks so much dub, will definitely try that next time...
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Re: Panaeolus Cyanescens
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2009, 09:49:04 PM »

Now, question - if it's been 60 days and some jars are only halfway colonized, should I think that in 60 more days the entire jar will be colonized or is the pan's mycelium simply too fragile or too thin to fully colonize a vermiculite and brown rice jar?  Is there anything I can do now to help the mycelium grow?  I already have it at about 84 degrees Farenheit.  Why must the entire jar be colonized before mushroom fruit can grow?
thanks again...
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Re: Panaeolus Cyanescens
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2009, 10:26:52 AM »

You might be better off colonizing at 80 deg. The myc creates heat when colonizing. If you don't fully colonize, something else will get a chance to eat that uncolonized food source and fuck things up for you. You might have trouble even getting fruits from those cakes. Pans do need a casing to fruit.
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Re: Panaeolus Cyanescens
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2009, 03:36:52 PM »

Should I perhaps be casing now?  Could I send you some pictures...?
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Re: Panaeolus Cyanescens
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2009, 03:38:43 PM »

Case after fully colonized. Can you post pics here?
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Re: Panaeolus Cyanescens
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2009, 08:57:54 PM »

I'm having trouble uploading... "cannot access attachments upload path"
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dub504

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« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2009, 11:51:43 AM »

You have to copy in the IMG code from photobucket or imageshack etc.. You can't upload to this site.
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Re: Panaeolus Cyanescens
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2009, 12:19:43 PM »

Here are some examples of the most and least colonized jars I have after 60 days...





The most colonized jars have a light blue coloration where the mycelium is thickest... any ideas?

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Re: Panaeolus Cyanescens
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2009, 02:13:05 PM »

Perhaps the substrate has lost a bit of moisture after 60 days.
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Re: Panaeolus Cyanescens
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2009, 03:26:38 PM »

  Andres,
  They have definitely lost too much moisture,......  thus the bluing as well as the lack of progression in colonization.
   You might try injecting a cc or two of sterile distilled water into the substrate with hopes of revitalizing the growth.
   ~Malabar    :mellow:
« Last Edit: December 22, 2009, 10:41:44 PM by malabar »
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Re: Panaeolus Cyanescens
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2009, 07:54:44 PM »

Thank you dub and malabar, I will try injecting distilled water to the substrate and see what happens...

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Re: Panaeolus Cyanescens
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2009, 10:21:56 PM »

Malabar - some of my jars seem to be reaching full colonization, but what does the presence of bluingm mean?
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Re: Panaeolus Cyanescens
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2009, 10:37:47 PM »

Would casing them with perlite be fine?  or would you suggest something else?
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Re: Panaeolus Cyanescens
« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2009, 10:38:02 PM »

andres,
  Sorry,.... My bad.  The "bluingm" was a typo that escaped detection of the spelling checker, and these old eyes ,.......  ( stick around for a few more years, and you'll get a pair! )  lol   ^_^
    VERMICULITE / PEAT , very basic,... very easy.
   Malabar   :mellow:
« Last Edit: December 23, 2009, 05:32:13 AM by malabar »
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Re: Panaeolus Cyanescens
« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2009, 06:59:53 AM »

Don't case with perlite. verm/peat moss 50/50
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Re: Panaeolus Cyanescens
« Reply #19 on: December 25, 2009, 07:58:08 PM »

So what is the bluing on the mycelium?  is it dead or damaged mycelium mass??
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