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Title: Mini monos
Post by: Combatkarl1627 on February 01, 2013, 02:12:15 PM
Started a few scales down monotubs, besides decreased yield has anyone had any exp. with a project like this ? Pros , cons? Obvious advantage with these if something goes wrong you don't lose tons of spawn and waste your bulk and casing at such large quantities!
Title: Re: Mini monos
Post by: Combatkarl1627 on February 09, 2013, 07:35:30 PM
gotta pic of one of these mini tubs...colonization looks kinda fuzzy, my other ones colonization is more web like like veiny...here is a pic of the fuzzy ...anyone see this as good by the looks of it ?
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Title: Re: Mini monos
Post by: Cacophonyhead on February 10, 2013, 01:18:07 AM
Web like veins sounds good - probably lots of rhyzo myc. I'd like to see a pic.
I dont really like the looks of this fuzzy one. The colour seems really off. Keep us posted and good luck. :mellow:
Title: Re: Mini monos
Post by: Combatkarl1627 on February 10, 2013, 07:44:51 AM
Does it look like cobweb to you ? Is there anything I should try or is that one just toast?
Title: Re: Mini monos
Post by: Cacophonyhead on February 10, 2013, 05:53:07 PM
I was only able to open one pic. The colour didnt look nice and white... Very brown/yellowish. Is it the lighting in the photo? Is there a casing layer?
Title: Re: Mini monos
Post by: Combatkarl1627 on February 10, 2013, 07:29:03 PM
yup did a 50/50 verm/coir casing layer ... colonized for 10 days like i read in the tek!  cased then brought to fruiting conditions ...looked like that after i removed foil and cut down the bag(the lighting is kinda yellowish as well so that may be part of it ), i sprayed with a 1% peroxide solution just to see , like i said i just brought another tub to fruiting and the myc looked very healthy , just cased it last night . now its in fruiting , with 69-72 degree heat, slow moving air ect. the spawn looks a little yellow but it is from BRF and vemic Cakes i used as spawn ... One question i had was do you remove mico tape for the exhaust holes or leave it on during fruiting ? also what is the benefit to casing/or not casing?

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Title: Re: Mini monos
Post by: Cacophonyhead on February 11, 2013, 02:18:57 AM
I dont tape my holes up. It looks like you have a lot of holes in your monotub. I have  1 in each corner an 1 in the middle of each long side for a total of 6 holes at 1/8 in size. This is all you really need for FAE. I dont bother with the large holes stuffed with polyfil.
The casing layer is used as a H2O reservoir, so you dont want it too thick - thr myc isnt suppose to use it for nutrients. If you are doing a MS run, casing layer helps with a more uniform pinset. For a clone run, I've been told its not so important.
What is that tube sticking in the side of the tub?
Title: Re: Mini monos
Post by: Combatkarl1627 on February 11, 2013, 07:47:16 AM
Oh I see well on my next tub I won't pop so many holes , my casing is about a quarter inch and is just straight sterilized berm and coir so shouldn't have any nutrients , the tube leads to a little reptile humidifier which brings in fresh humid air slowly . I was thinking it would provide good FAE without the need for a fan! Similar to the device MoGrow had in one of his posts.
Title: Re: Mini monos
Post by: Cacophonyhead on February 11, 2013, 09:15:25 AM
A good investment is one of those air scrubers with hepa filter. Even with the small holes in my mono; I get enough air circulation from the scrubber. Less air contams, no fan, and no humidifier. :mellow:
Title: Re: Mini monos
Post by: Combatkarl1627 on February 11, 2013, 11:09:55 AM
Oh that's a good idea ill check into that ! So with the questionable tub should I continue a peroxide mist? And if it is cobweb and it subsides will the myc take back over or what direction should I go? Continue fruiting or back to colonization?
Title: Re: Mini monos
Post by: Cacophonyhead on February 11, 2013, 12:09:49 PM
I mix grains into sub with sterilized glove. Put into darkness for 3-6 days untill fully colonized. Add casing layer and mist with H2O/peroxide. Put back into darkness for 2-4 days. Then right to the window. I do mist between flushes, but I have read that this is a no-no. So I dunno, works for me :mellow:
Title: Re: Mini monos
Post by: Combatkarl1627 on February 11, 2013, 01:31:50 PM
So u let colonize after applying casing layer ? I have artificial light ..that be alright?  I haven't used grain well not yet I have a grain spawn colonizing now but like I said before this run is basically a pf tek broken up into monos!
Title: Re: Mini monos
Post by: Cacophonyhead on February 11, 2013, 01:55:37 PM
Ya, just for the myc to establish itself with the casing layer. You have the right idea with it being 1/4 inch thick. The light should be fine. CFL bulbs above 3200K is what ive been told.
Title: Re: Mini monos
Post by: Combatkarl1627 on February 11, 2013, 02:34:00 PM
Cool I have aquarium flouros at 6700k , will keep you updated , I don't know if you answered about the cobweb earlier tho ... If I get it to subside will the myc still colonize and fruit and while trying to rid this mold should I have that tub in fruiting or colonizing conditions ?
Title: Re: Mini monos
Post by: Cacophonyhead on February 11, 2013, 06:32:04 PM
You just dont want a light that will give off heat. Ya, hit that cobweb with h2O2 and keep us posted! Good luck! :mellow:
Title: Re: Mini monos
Post by: Combatkarl1627 on February 11, 2013, 06:58:16 PM
Ya they stay pretty cool actually , will do ! How long till primordial growth should be seen?
Title: Re: Mini monos
Post by: Cacophonyhead on February 12, 2013, 06:36:08 AM
Gotta be patient lol. Ive seen pins in a week. Ive seen pins take 4. Its a gamble with ms runs. Cant wait to see your monsters! :wacko:
Title: Re: Mini monos
Post by: Combatkarl1627 on February 12, 2013, 12:51:22 PM
Me too , being a noob I have a lot of questions but I think I'm starting to get it ! Interesting working with micro being seeing how they work is pretty cool! Will keep posted
Title: Re: Mini monos
Post by: cherly77 on February 13, 2013, 01:29:57 AM
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Title: Re: Mini monos
Post by: hurioxiee on February 28, 2013, 10:44:03 PM
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Title: Re: Mini monos
Post by: michkis on March 14, 2013, 02:01:02 AM
You just dont want a light that will give off heat. Ya, hit that cobweb with h2O2 and keep us posted! Good luck!
Title: Re: Mini monos
Post by: MoGrow on March 14, 2013, 09:39:27 PM
Quote from: michkis on March 14, 2013, 02:01:02 AM
Ya, hit that cobweb with h2O2 and keep us posted! Good luck!

Theres a process to this, i cant remember what it is ill look it up and post back when i find it.
Its like 3x12hours or some thing, meaning douse the cobweb with h2o2 3x 12hours apart to kill it permanantly.
Title: Re: Mini monos
Post by: Combatkarl1627 on March 16, 2013, 09:23:48 PM
further down the line i think in one of my tubs i had too little air flow i have hyphil* nodes little white blobs on the sub now... i flushed for 3 hours and replaced to fruiting conditions...anyone have exp on how long it will take to see fruits again or any other info on getting another flush outta these ?
Title: Re: Mini monos
Post by: MoGrow on March 18, 2013, 10:22:16 AM
Usually 2 weeks for second flush to show up. But it varries.
Title: Re: Mini monos
Post by: Combatkarl1627 on March 18, 2013, 12:58:16 PM
Cool.  Will post a pic  or two tonight of new pins
Title: Re: Mini monos
Post by: Combatkarl1627 on March 18, 2013, 06:26:24 PM
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Title: Re: Mini monos
Post by: MoGrow on April 01, 2013, 09:19:18 PM
Quote from: csluyuan on April 01, 2013, 12:41:41 AM
Oh I see well on my next tub I won't pop so many holes , my casing is about a quarter inch and is just straight sterilized berm and coir so shouldn't have any nutrients , the tube leads to a little reptile humidifier which brings in fresh humid air slowly . I was thinking it would provide good FAE without the need for a fan! Similar to the device MoGrow had in one of his posts.

I believe your refering to darksydes setup. I dont use any automation in my growing., I strictly use set and forget monotubs. I see people use these set ups regularly but there not necessary. If you polystuff your holes right theres no need for fanning or misting for the first flush and i mist 3 or so times a week, and fan once a day on second, and third flushes.