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General => General topics => Topic started by: lun0s on February 16, 2010, 06:09:02 PM

Title: Rust!
Post by: lun0s on February 16, 2010, 06:09:02 PM
So this seems like a problem I'm not sure how to combat. My lids where I put holes, and even some other places :() have rust. When I reused my last jars I cleaned the rust off as good as possible but on this batch when I disposed of the bad jars the lids had rust forming from the moisture inside jars. Should I be worried about rust it seems pretty obvious that it is a very good contamination factor but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Rust!
Post by: bigfatmouthj on February 16, 2010, 06:25:25 PM
Rust is an enemy! i just had a problem with a few jars after
cleaning them also. i just went out and bought new lids.
you could use tin foil to cover the jars. but rust will contaminate
your jars for sure. :angry:
Title: Re: Rust!
Post by: lun0s on February 17, 2010, 02:52:10 AM
Would polyester filling the holes help combat the rust that is forming from moisture? From everything I've read so far I have yet to actually come across any mention of rust oddly.
Edit;
Just did a quick search on shroomery... http://www.shroomery.org/5163/Theres-rust-on-the-lids-of-my-PF-jars-is-that-okay once again I'm finding info on there and then hearing other things from other sources(fungifun.org)
Title: Re: Rust!
Post by: k12357 on February 17, 2010, 05:11:11 AM
rust is a chemical reaction between water metal and air.  it is not a bacteria that is going to cause contamination.  Ive never had problems with my rings getting a little rust on them.  i use synthetic filter disks, so i dont work about the lids.  occasionally the rust will stop me from closing my jars properly and ill switch rings.
Title: Re: Rust!
Post by: substrate on February 17, 2010, 12:56:33 PM
if they are really bad, and you're concerned about it, new lids are CHEAP - like a dollar or two for a box of 12. 

I found a very helpful tool at Lowe's or Home Depot.  It's made by "General" and is a 3-in-one marking tool.  One of the tips is a hardened steel awl.  It allows you to make small, perfectly round holes in your lids with just a little pressure using your fingers.  Very smooth, easy to control.  Less damage to the lids, less rust.  I think the tool was about $6.
Title: Re: Rust!
Post by: lun0s on February 17, 2010, 02:21:43 PM
I already made the holes using a nail and piece of wood with a hole in it(to easily push the nail through). The rust isn't THAT bad its just present.
Title: Re: Rust!
Post by: MT on February 17, 2010, 02:35:10 PM
Rust has never been the cause of bacterial contaminants in any of my past grows. I don't believe that rust generates bacteria that can infect your mushroom production.
Title: Re: Rust!
Post by: lun0s on February 17, 2010, 02:52:38 PM
Alright just wanted to confirm wether or not to be worried about ti with a few others
Title: Re: Rust!
Post by: dub504 on February 17, 2010, 03:37:54 PM
I remember malabar saying rust is unwanted in your mushroom culture some time ago. I found wide mouth plastic lids online, which work great for me. A large hole in the middle for Polyfil and four small silicone self healing inoculation points around the outside. After a couple of uses you can just pull off the silicone and reapply.
Title: Re: Rust!
Post by: lun0s on February 17, 2010, 05:15:07 PM
I might just order some plastic lids online. That'd clear up my lids rusting away on me.
Title: Re: Rust!
Post by: malabar on March 22, 2010, 06:46:48 PM
  Good memory, Dubmeister! 
You will go far Grasshopper ,...
   ~Malabar   :mellow:
Title: Re: Rust!
Post by: dub504 on March 23, 2010, 01:56:41 PM
Tanks! Bar man!