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Title: peat/verm
Post by: fungiguy on July 15, 2009, 06:15:54 AM
i just crossed over to the wonderful world of popcorn. the 1st attempt is cased (peat/verm 50/50). it should be ready for the fc by friday--hopefully. my question is this~~~~when pressure cooking, should i have a whole-with polyfill- in my jar lids?
Title: Re: peat/verm
Post by: fungiguy on July 15, 2009, 06:26:37 AM
i mean when i am pc'ing the peat/verm.
Title: Re: peat/verm
Post by: malabar on July 15, 2009, 06:27:40 AM
Fungiguy,
     Are you speaking about working the casing in the pc?   
  Whatever manner you pc your substrate, is the same for your casing.  It's just another step bro.
  I have a little popcorn project happening myself,....  If for no other reason, just for the experience.  I really work quite well with the grains, and/or millet mix.
  I'm about to do the g2g, and also spawn to coir with the corn within the next couple of days. 
  ~Malabar   :mellow:
Title: Re: peat/verm
Post by: fungiguy on July 15, 2009, 07:40:07 AM
hay malabar. i meant pc'ing the casing mixture. first time trying to case. the pint of popcorn i cased colonized very fast. but the other three are slow going and still in the incubator. so goes nature!! i plan on g2g with one, and case the other two. goood luck with your new venture!!!
Title: Re: peat/verm
Post by: psilocybin warrior on July 15, 2009, 12:03:52 PM
PC your casing mix? Why not spend 5 minutes in a microwave?

PW
Title: Re: peat/verm
Post by: malabar on July 15, 2009, 12:19:10 PM
PW,
  Old habits are hard to break.  Besides that, I haven't seen a bit of contamination in years.   ^_^    I pc, my grains, coir, casing,.....everything.
  Hell, if it were a bit larger,  I might just toss the SUV's in and save on detailing!    lol  And there are 2 nuke machines in this house, and I have not  even thought of asking permission to use them along these lines.
  Keep it on the Down Low , that I stuck some Coir in there on Saturday.....
   Or the little lady will be Kicking My Ass with both feet!   
   ~Malabar   :mellow:
Title: Re: peat/verm
Post by: psilocybin warrior on July 15, 2009, 12:49:02 PM
I havn't seen any contam's for a good minute (in my casings anyway). only takes 5 minutes, how long for your PC?

PW
Title: Re: peat/verm
Post by: malabar on July 15, 2009, 06:01:51 PM
PW,
  I give anything that goes into the pc, 45 minutes, and again, that's  a habit.  Then again, I also tend to mix items that are in the pc, other than blends that may contain processed compost.  And, I only pc the processed compost since I have seen things "come alive" after pasteurization, and we know pressure and heat will kill those suckers off.
  But, we do what we do,.... eh?  And, I have the time.
    ~Malabar   :mellow:
Title: Re: peat/verm
Post by: shroomzer on July 15, 2009, 07:30:37 PM
OH oH...thats it Malabar .. i'mma gonna rat you out~!  LOL .. now really it doesn't make a mess or anything to use the microwave .. just if you make a mess, clean it up.  sheesh, men~!  But then again, it sounds like you have a woman that keeps you on your toes now don't it?~!
Title: Re: peat/verm
Post by: malabar on July 15, 2009, 07:42:56 PM
Shroomzer,...
  Please,..please, don't drop that dime!    :huh:  I don't like the "Doghouse".     ^_^   
  Hell,..  The dogs don't even like the doghouse!  As far as using the toys in the kitchen,......  Well, I'm good!   Thx.
  I have my playground.  She has hers.     -_-      Unless I have business in there,....  I'll just avoid places I know i shouldn't be,.....  Other than that, I'm just passing through.     :rolleyes:
  As far as keeping me on my toes,.....  Can you,.....  Ballet? 
      :mellow:
Title: Re: peat/verm
Post by: fattrout on July 15, 2009, 07:48:36 PM
ok its time for my 2 cents,lol. i personally microwave my casing mix, it works for me.  -_-
i also, lysol the shit out of everything  ^_^. just before i do my mixing and cooking.
one more thing, i allways make sure the complete mix reaches 200 degrees. :ph34r:
Title: Re: peat/verm
Post by: coyoteyogi on July 16, 2009, 12:52:02 AM
 :mellow: I'm with Fattrout on this one. Its easy to get a digital candy thermometer and check the temp of the casing. At that stage of the process who wants to add contams to the mix?
Title: Re: peat/verm
Post by: malabar on July 16, 2009, 01:36:25 AM
  Okay guys,
      I'm not knocking what you do,.....  I have no need for speed since I know just about how long it will take from beginning to end, and that won't happen any faster than it does by nature.       ^_^
  I have all of the toys to check temp, and and current conditions,.......But,....
I haven't been motivated to buy another microwave ( even though they are cheap ).   
        ****Most importantly,....... I refuse to "pay the cost" for, ignoring the BOSS,    :wacko:   and frequenting the kitchen with my projects, other than making lunch!     Yes, I'm Scared,.....
  So, Life Remains good in the House of Malabar,.......
      :mellow:
Title: Re: peat/verm
Post by: fungiguy on July 16, 2009, 04:20:50 AM
what kind of container/lid are u using in the microwave?
Title: Re: peat/verm
Post by: malabar on July 16, 2009, 04:33:52 AM
Fungiguy,
  You're beginning to scare me now!  lol    (kidding)   ^_^    Let's think about this,.......  Something microwave safe, maybe?   And, i would say just like food, loose lid if any, or it will explode.   -_-
Title: Re: peat/verm
Post by: fungiguy on July 16, 2009, 04:47:11 AM
hay there malabar. i know the dish has to be micro-safe, lol. i actually wanted to know about covering it. very funny though. btw, do u have a favorite strain to grow?? mabye because of higher yields, or more importantly, better trips(visuals). you have been on the scene a little longer than myself.
Title: Re: peat/verm
Post by: malabar on July 16, 2009, 05:07:28 AM
Fungiguy,
  Favorite strains,....  B+, Malabar,... ( of course), F+, TAZ, GT, and Creepers are always growing in my "lab".  I recently traded some colonizing grain for some colonizing Combodians on popcorn.  So, my portfolio is always diversifying.
  I will be doing a g2g with popcorn when I get back from camping this weekend, so we'll see where we go with that.
  I usually take in fairly large doses, and mix the F+, with TAZ which have given nice visuals.  But, like I said, I do fly higher than most.  Avg 15 gm dry, maybe more if the setting is right.     -_-
  ~Malabar   :mellow:
Title: Re: peat/verm
Post by: fungiguy on July 16, 2009, 05:25:31 AM
cool, thanks malabar. b+ and gt's are what i am currently yielding.  i have 6 jars (cakes) of taz almost fully colonized in the incubator. and, coincidentally, i also have several jars of popcorn knocked up with cam.
Title: Re: peat/verm
Post by: malabar on July 16, 2009, 05:33:09 AM
  Nice.  You sound as though you have enough to start a little farm, then to mix and match to find your perfect blend.    -_-
  Glide smoothly my friend.  I have to get some work done, so I can get my weekend started this afternoon.
     Later     :mellow:
Title: Re: peat/verm
Post by: cugak on July 16, 2009, 07:00:13 PM
I dont have a microwave so for how long do i put casing mix in pc. And do jars need a filter or a tin foil wrap?
Title: Re: peat/verm
Post by: coyoteyogi on July 17, 2009, 01:28:32 AM
15 minutes @ 15psi is plenty. You want to have the casing at field capacity, that is saturated with water but with no standing water in the container. I would cover it loosely with some foil. Let it cool to room temp. If you have extra quart jars you can do a large batch and use as needed. If you do store them with the standard canning lids. I also put in some H2O2, overkill maybe, but trich sucks.
Title: Re: peat/verm
Post by: dub504 on July 20, 2009, 04:57:11 AM
What is the ratio of water:H2O2 in casings?
Title: Re: peat/verm
Post by: coyoteyogi on July 20, 2009, 07:05:12 AM
I don't actually put it in the casing when I PC. I have a spray bottle with 1:9 (H2O2:H2O) and I dampen the surface once it is cased.
Title: Re: peat/verm
Post by: dub504 on July 20, 2009, 07:51:24 AM
I see...