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Title: vermiculite replacement?
Post by: renholder on April 23, 2004, 02:38:17 AM
hey, just wondering if there is a replacement for vermiculate? i've been told there is different soils but never any specific type. My friend said he has done the PF-Tek guide with Rice bubbles!!... my friend also pulls alot of shit from his arse! is this true? if not have you got any replacements for vermiculite that you know of?

I also would like to know some tips on getting spores of freshly picked (wild) shrooms?

i live in melb, Australia

Cheers!
Title: vermiculite replacement?
Post by: anno on April 23, 2004, 05:05:44 AM


>My friend said he has done the PF-Tek guide with Rice bubbles!!
Since rice bubbles is popped rice, it is probably true.

>my friend also pulls alot of shit from his arse! is this true?
If you say so ;)

>if not have you got any replacements for vermiculite that you know of?

Read Can I substitute any ingredients in the PF recipe? (http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/23263)

>I also would like to know some tips on getting spores of freshly picked (wild) shrooms?

Cut the cup of an opened, clean, fresh mushroom as far to wards the top of the stalk as possible, and place on fresh clean typing paper and cover with a water glass. Remove the cap after 12-24 hours, now a nice dark print should be on the paper. Replace the glass and leave for another 24 in order for the print to dry. After 24 hours remove the glass, fold the paper  and store the print dry and cold.
Title: vermiculite replacement?
Post by: renholder on April 23, 2004, 05:13:27 AM
thankyou very much anno

>my friend also pulls alot of shit from his arse! is this true?
If you say so ....lol i meant  - is that true that rice bubbles would work! i wouldnt ask such a stupid question.

but i do have another good question

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.p...sb=5&o=&fpart=1 (http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=2572998&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1)

the third picture from the top, i have found a cluster exactly the same, and i couldnt identify it, could you tell me if it might be the magic kind

Cheers!
Title: vermiculite replacement?
Post by: anno on April 23, 2004, 10:05:17 AM
I can only tell you what the people that replied in this thread said:
Could be, could not be, impossible to tell with so little data.
And, unless one is 100%, consider every mushroom as poisonous.
Title: vermiculite replacement?
Post by: Jopo on April 23, 2004, 03:51:51 PM
Hello,
may i ask what the mechanism is which you use for fruiting anno, as i had seen it in your gallery?  It looked like a dishwasher to me but i didn't think dish washers produced light or misting! :huh:For the verm/peatmoss casing, where would i get crushed oyster shells (fishstore, wal-mart etc.)?

Also where do you perchase your mushroom syringes/prints, because i am looking for Panaeolus cyanescens prints?
Title: vermiculite replacement?
Post by: anno on April 24, 2004, 12:15:14 PM
>may i ask what the mechanism is which you use for fruiting anno, as i had seen it in your gallery?
It's a shelf system from Ikea, it's called Antonius.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.p...=&Number=524241 (http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=524241)

>For the verm/peatmoss casing, where would i get crushed oyster shells
>(fishstore, wal-mart etc.)?

Crushed oyster shells are used as a food supplement for birds, so pethop would be my guess.

>Also where do you perchase your mushroom syringes/prints, because i am
>looking for Panaeolus cyanescens prints?

I don?t purchase them anymore.... when I did, I used http://www.thehawkseye.com (http://www.thehawkseye.com), http://www.sporeworks.com (http://www.sporeworks.com) and http://www.smartbotanics.nl (http://www.smartbotanics.nl) .
Title: vermiculite replacement?
Post by: Jopo on April 24, 2004, 02:50:47 PM
Awsome, i am looking on the web on ikea.com and i see the caged bins but no shelf unit, from these can you spot it.?

http://www.ikea.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servl...=antonius+shelf (http://www.ikea.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/IkeamsSearch?storeId=3&langId=-15&catalogId=10101&searchType=product&pageNumber=-1&orderBy=score&category=%23%7EProducts&query=antonius+shelf)

It does look neat, how does it work, is it annything like a terrarium?
Title: vermiculite replacement?
Post by: anno on April 24, 2004, 04:58:19 PM
The post at the Shroomery about Antonius really holds about every detail I encountered with Antonius.

Something similar, less expensive:
http://www.kmart.com/product/index.jsp?pro...rentPage=family (http://www.kmart.com/product/index.jsp?productId=777787&cp=784773.784861.784554&parentPage=family)
Title: vermiculite replacement?
Post by: Sr_Setahongo on April 26, 2004, 11:37:12 PM
Hey Anno, do you sterilize the water of the cool mist humidifier or do you just add some bleach or iodine?
Title: vermiculite replacement?
Post by: anno on April 27, 2004, 12:05:10 AM
I just add some peroxide.
Title: vermiculite replacement?
Post by: fungi on September 23, 2004, 10:45:51 AM
Quotehey, just wondering if there is a replacement for vermiculate? i've been told there is different soils but never any specific type. My friend said he has done the PF-Tek guide with Rice bubbles!!... my friend also pulls alot of shit from his arse! is this true? if not have you got any replacements for vermiculite that you know of?

I also would like to know some tips on getting spores of freshly picked (wild) shrooms?

i live in melb, Australia

Cheers!
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You can use Perlite
Title: Re: vermiculite replacement?
Post by: lostcause1138 on June 08, 2010, 01:30:38 PM
i once used perlite and it fucked everything. only got a few grams outta 10 or 12 jars.
Title: Re: vermiculite replacement?
Post by: lostcause1138 on June 08, 2010, 03:38:16 PM
then i used actual vermiculite and they went tits