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Mushroom cultivation => Cultivation => Topic started by: mustang1986 on July 29, 2009, 06:54:00 AM

Title: cakes
Post by: mustang1986 on July 29, 2009, 06:54:00 AM
i just birthed my first cakes and they stuck in my jars pretty bad so i had to pull and squeeze them on the bottom will that hurt them? i also could see the perlite a little bit threw the mycelium did i birth them to soon?
Title: Re: cakes
Post by: Deadneck on July 29, 2009, 07:03:27 AM
What's perlite doing inside of your cake? WTF? Perlite is used inside your FC to create humidity.
Title: Re: cakes
Post by: mustang1986 on July 29, 2009, 07:15:05 AM
i smoke to much bud lol i meant verm not perlite haha
Title: Re: cakes
Post by: room408 on July 29, 2009, 07:25:22 AM
on the bottom you should have a dry verm layer. that will stick a little to the bottom. but your not damaging the cakes at all. if you wanted to you could have crumbled and cased them. if their white all around they should be good all the way through.
Title: Re: cakes
Post by: mustang1986 on July 29, 2009, 07:45:31 AM
yeah there white all over i hope they are good
Title: Re: cakes
Post by: Deadneck on July 29, 2009, 07:54:51 AM
They will probably bruise a nice deep blue depending on how hard you had to squeeze them, but it won't affect grow much, if at all. I would get wide mouth jars to avoid this in the future.
Title: Re: cakes
Post by: mustang1986 on July 29, 2009, 08:10:16 AM
thanks for the info. how long should they sit in the water before i roll them in the dry verm?
Title: Re: cakes
Post by: dub504 on July 29, 2009, 08:41:24 AM
@ least 12 hrs but no longer than 24 hrs. The closer to 24 the better. Make sure they are submersed ie. weighted down.
Title: Re: cakes
Post by: mustang1986 on July 29, 2009, 02:10:25 PM
after i put my cakes in fc should i mist them heavily?
Title: Re: cakes
Post by: psilocybin warrior on July 29, 2009, 03:53:03 PM
No, thats what the dunking is for  ^_^

PW
Title: Re: cakes
Post by: mustang1986 on July 29, 2009, 03:53:31 PM
and how long should i have the lights on and off when there in fc? ?
Title: Re: cakes
Post by: malabar on July 29, 2009, 04:00:26 PM
Mustang,
  Since the lights only really initiate pinning, anywhere from 4 - 12 hours on per 24 hour period will workout very well for your little friends.
  ~Malabar  :mellow:
Title: Re: cakes
Post by: mustang1986 on July 29, 2009, 04:08:25 PM
okay thanks for the info i am putting them in fc at 10 or 11 tonight think i shoul leave lights on untill 6 in the morning thats when i wake up. does that sound like a good lighting schedule ?
Title: Re: cakes
Post by: malabar on July 29, 2009, 04:23:52 PM
Mustang,
  If it works for you, and your little friends,.....  It sounds like a plan! 
      :ph34r:
Title: Re: cakes
Post by: mustang1986 on July 29, 2009, 04:32:17 PM
this should be a new topic but what substrate should i use for pan cyans? and how should i fruit them cuz i heard they are harder and different to grow. i have heard they only do good on poo lol
Title: Re: cakes
Post by: malabar on July 29, 2009, 04:39:17 PM
Mustang,
  I would be thinking of using Rye grain or Barley, if it were me.
   ~Malabar   :mellow:
Title: Re: cakes
Post by: MT on July 29, 2009, 06:05:21 PM
After I dunk and roll my cakes I always wait about half an hour to let the verm layer dry out some and then I mist my cakes four of five times over the next twenty-four hours to get the verm layer nice and moist.
Title: Re: cakes
Post by: dub504 on July 30, 2009, 02:17:09 AM
Malabar, The rye or barley for pans. Is that just your personal preference or is there a reason beyond that... :ph34r:
Title: Re: cakes
Post by: malabar on July 30, 2009, 07:02:19 AM
Dub,
  The Barley and Rye are all about my own preference and past experience.  I found that though the Pan. Coplandias likes straw more than anything else, that seems to have the Highest vulnerability to contamination.  Where as, in  using barley, or rye, you can easily spawn to compost  which greatly increases yield and size.
  You could also fruit right on the grains, but I found that you will produce 100's of tiny fruits that may be so small that they are a pain, if not impossible to harvest.
  But, I haven't played with them in Many years, and there may be more new data, or info out there.  Dig around a bit, or ask perhaps seek out PW.  He might have more than I on the species.
  Either way, it's an interesting project if you so choose to take it on.
     ~Malabar   :mellow:
Title: Re: cakes
Post by: dub504 on July 30, 2009, 12:51:43 PM
someday...
Title: Re: cakes
Post by: mustang1986 on July 30, 2009, 03:30:01 PM
i have had my cakes fruiting for a day and there is this fuzz stuff starting to grow in small places on them is that normal or some kind of mold? no color to it just small white fuzz
Title: Re: cakes
Post by: malabar on July 30, 2009, 03:49:24 PM
Mustang,
  It's probably nothing more than mycelium,......    But, nobody wants to guess,  and anyone will tell you,....
   Photos are needed to help you.
   :ph34r:
Title: Re: cakes
Post by: mustang1986 on July 30, 2009, 03:58:15 PM
thats what i thought but you cant see it in pictures i done tried. i will post pics soon as there is something to post. the humidity in my fc is 97 how low should it get before i start misting or should i already be misting?
Title: Re: cakes
Post by: malabar on July 30, 2009, 04:09:30 PM
Mustang,
   If you are at 97% rh now, you probably have, or should have misted prior to entering the fc.
   I would do little to no misting, unless the casing appears to be drying out for some reason.  The surface is to be moist, not soaked.
   The next time you really have to be truly concerned with additional misting will be after the appearance of fruits.
  When fruits appear, I bring my rh down to about 90% rh - 92% rh. 
There have been times that I am away, and the rh has been at 95% rh for 4 - 5 days without harming the little guys.
    ~Malabar   :mellow:
Title: Re: cakes
Post by: dub504 on July 30, 2009, 08:25:25 PM
Mustang, what your temp? If it's 74-77, good. If it's higher your cakes may still want to vegetate and the myc just wants to stretch out instead of forming knots, pins, primordia and finally ... fruit!