I had them in a dark place and nothing happened, so I moved them to a different area that had some indirect sunlight. But I still didn't have any growth. Measurements were correct. Water was at a full boil for the full 90 min. I really think sporebank.com sold me dead spores. I placed an order with sporeworks.com the other day. From what I've read, that is a much more trusted site. My syringes should be here any day. I also bought a pressure cooker, and I'm gonna try the bird seed method. I'll let you know how it turns out.