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Title: vermiculit problem
Post by: HEGEMON on April 04, 2004, 01:42:39 PM
Please help, i'm desperate,there is no vermiculit in my country,can i use something else insted of it.
Title: vermiculit problem
Post by: K20A2 on April 04, 2004, 03:34:59 PM
Did you try ordering off the internet? No stores in my area carry it anymore so I had to order mine online.  
Title: vermiculit problem
Post by: anno on April 05, 2004, 07:45:14 AM
Which country?
Title: vermiculit problem
Post by: HEGEMON on April 13, 2004, 12:04:08 PM
I'm from serbia.
It would be very expensive  if i order online.
Title: vermiculit problem
Post by: anno on April 13, 2004, 03:10:30 PM
Then I would suggest to try a diffeerent tek than the PF-Tek.
You could sterilize some rye
http://www.fungifun.org/grain (http://www.fungifun.org/grain)
inoculate it, and once colonized case it.
Many documents about it at http://www.shroomery.org/casing (http://www.shroomery.org/casing) .
Title: vermiculit problem
Post by: HEGEMON on April 21, 2004, 04:56:49 AM
Thanks for the information's but I decided to buy vermiculit.It's not so expensive after all.
So 6 days ago i did inoculation and now i have 2 questions:

1.I bought brown rice at the health food store, but I'm not so sure if it's organic.They told me it's organic but i'm
not sure because it was the only store in town that had organic brown rice and the other stores didn't have it, And there
is about 50 health-food stores in my town.So what will happen if it's not organic.

2.The room where i keep my glasses is not perfectly clean.I try to keep it as clean as possible but i don't think
it's clean enough.So i put each glass in a plastic bag and sealed it.The question is:can i keep them like this,
do they need ear.My English is not so good,so i hope you understand this question.

Thanks
Title: vermiculit problem
Post by: anno on April 21, 2004, 06:12:44 AM
1. While it?s better to use organic brown rice, in most cases normal white rice  suitable for human consumption works as well. So don't worry too much about it.

2. I wouldn't recommend putting the jars in plastic bags. The jars need air to breath, while the amount needed is not that great, it's still better if they are not sealed.
The top vermiculite layer and of course the foil should provide enough protection against dust from the air.

And your English, it's flawless.

Do you think you could or better, would you want to  translate the PF Tek for Simple Minds into Serbian language? Do you think there is an interest for it in your country?
Title: vermiculit problem
Post by: HEGEMON on April 22, 2004, 05:51:51 AM
I can and i want to translate Pf tek for simple minds into Serbian(Croation,Bosnian and Montenegro are basically the same
languages).I know a lot of people who are interested in trying mushrooms.Since they are ilegal, they can't buy them, they will have to grow them like i do.
Title: vermiculit problem
Post by: anno on April 23, 2004, 12:31:30 AM
>I can and i want to translate Pf tek for simple minds into Serbian

Very good!

In the attachment are the files which need to be translated. I would suggest you to use the web editor that comes along http://www.mozilla.org (http://www.mozilla.org) .
If you run into any problems feel free to post here or PM me.
Title: vermiculit problem
Post by: HEGEMON on May 10, 2004, 02:23:02 PM
I have translated pf-tek.Should i post it here or mail it to you?sorry for waitting so long but i was very bussy this days studying for exam.

Also i have couple of questions:

1.I took out cakes from incubator 15 days ago and put them on the room temperature,still there is no
sign of pinning(strain is cubesnis equador). Should i try using cold shocking or should i wait a little more?

2.There was something green on two of my cakes when mycelium started to colonize,but now on one cake i see it only
at the bottom of the glass and on the other one there is no more,only pure white color.What should i do with this cakes.Can
Mushrooms grow from contaminated cakes? What will happen if someone eat contaminated mushrooms?

Thanks
Title: vermiculit problem
Post by: HEGEMON on May 10, 2004, 02:31:44 PM
Just curious :D Where are you from anno
Title: vermiculit problem
Post by: anno on May 10, 2004, 04:41:56 PM
>I have translated pf-tek.Should i post it here or mail it to you?

Please emqail it to me, the adedress is here http://www.fungifun.org/contact.htm (http://www.fungifun.org/contact.htm)

>I took out cakes from incubator 15 days ago and put them on the room
>temperature,still there is nosign of pinning(strain is cubesnis equador).

Some strains don#t form invitro pins. In this case birth the cakes as they are, without pins.


>There was something green on two of my cakes when mycelium started to colonize
Green -> green mold, contamination

>Can Mushrooms grow from contaminated cakes?
Yes and no. In some cases they might, but in general the mold will surpress the mushrooms.

>What will happen if someone eat contaminated mushrooms?
That#s a good question. Depends on the mold: it might not do any harm, it might make you very sick. As a general rule, avoid mushrooms from contaminated cakes.

> Where are you from anno

Austria.
Title: vermiculit problem
Post by: specialteaforyou on May 15, 2004, 12:29:51 AM
how did the cakes come out? im looking to start mine ASAP just getting info on whats new...havent done this since college any hints besides the tek?
Title: vermiculit problem
Post by: HEGEMON on May 21, 2004, 03:01:10 AM
The cakes came out very easy.I'm new in mushroom cultivation,so i'm hollding 100% of  this tek.
Title: vermiculit problem
Post by: HEGEMON on June 01, 2004, 04:28:09 AM
Twenty days past but still there is no signs of grow.I was wondering if i'm doing
something wrong,maybe i don't give them enough light.How many ours of light per day do they need?
Did you receive my mail anno?
 
Title: vermiculit problem
Post by: anno on June 02, 2004, 03:28:57 AM
They need a couple of hours of light  a day (2+).
How is the humidity, do the cakes look bluish and dry?

>Did you receive my mail anno?
Yes, thank you very much, I will put it online soon.
Title: vermiculit problem
Post by: HEGEMON on June 03, 2004, 04:16:26 PM
They look dry to me but not bluish, in fact they look the same as the day i birthed them. Bottom perlite layer is completely wet.
Title: vermiculit problem
Post by: HEGEMON on June 06, 2004, 06:33:50 AM
Here is a photo of my cake
Title: vermiculit problem
Post by: HEGEMON on June 06, 2004, 06:38:50 AM
another one.
Title: vermiculit problem
Post by: anno on June 06, 2004, 11:18:26 AM
They look ok....perhaps it just needs some more time.
Title: vermiculit problem
Post by: HEGEMON on June 14, 2004, 12:20:11 PM
Hi anno.
After two months of waiting finally i see some results of my work.
But as you can see on the photo there is only one mushroom growing on the cake and I?m not very satisfied with this. As I understood if you dunk cake, then it will produce more mushrooms. Should I dunk cake after I pick up this one shroom?
Title: vermiculit problem
Post by: anno on June 15, 2004, 11:03:14 AM
YIz can dunk it after the flush, yes.

Do you have only one cake? What strain did you use?
Title: vermiculit problem
Post by: HEGEMON on June 17, 2004, 08:57:20 AM
I have only two cakes left.
I had ten cakes 5-Cubensis equador and 5-mexican palenque.
And nOw 1-equador(on the photo above) and 1-Palenque(here's photo).