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Mushroom cultivation => Cultivation => Topic started by: blah on March 09, 2005, 11:48:46 AM

Title: azurescens
Post by: blah on March 09, 2005, 11:48:46 AM
what is best way to further spawn SMALL amount of spawn, (small zipbag)?

as the spawn may have been in the bag for a while, should it be treated in any way, like dunked?

how is continuing adding small amounts of pasturized alder while its growing?

in the PDF they use hazel have you tried that and compared to alder?,
we got 2alder species A. incana and A. glutinosa does it matter which? (they really seem to have different wood qualities in my flora...)

"3. The colonized wood chips are used to inoculate an outdoor wood chips bed located in a shady spot in spring. Best are fresh wood chips from deciduous trees(alder, beech, poplar, but any other deciduous wood will work) also spruce and Douglas fir. Dried, soaked wood chips also work."

so the wood in the bed is untreated not pasteurized or anything?

why is Ps. Azurescens and Cyanescens so good at FRESH wood?
Title: azurescens
Post by: anno on March 11, 2005, 06:05:21 AM
>so the wood in the bed is untreated not pasteurized or anything?
Yes.

>why is Ps. Azurescens and Cyanescens so good at FRESH wood?
Well, fresh wood is moist and not colonized by other organisms.


>what is best way to further spawn SMALL amount of spawn, (small zipbag)?

I would sterilize or pasteurize several jars or small bags of woodchips and inoculate them with the spawn you have. You can expand the spawn to a 10-20 fold amount this way.

>as the spawn may have been in the bag for a while, should it be treated in any way, like dunked?
No.

>how is continuing adding small amounts of pasturized alder while its growing?

The other way round is safer. This way you have several jars and thus minimizing the risk of losing everything to contamination.
Title: azurescens
Post by: blah on March 11, 2005, 08:08:44 AM
and how fresh is fresh? Ive thougt of it like just cutted (less than a week), or does it mean that its just so fresh that it not have dried.
Title: azurescens
Post by: anno on March 11, 2005, 09:33:13 PM
> Ive thougt of it like just cutted (less than a week),

Yeah, this is good but also already dried(amd soaked again) is good.

What is important is that there isn't already another fungus growing on it.
Title: Re: azurescens
Post by: CyberBOB on March 31, 2006, 07:31:15 AM
HI! Dear Anno, please tell me in wich way it is better for me to make an outdoor patch?
I have about a half of 800ml. jar of semi-colonized wood chips.
Semi-colonized I mean, that in places where rye spawn is layin mycelium is very white and puffy, and al other surface of woodchips is little less white? but it have mycelium on it. Is that OK? Should I wait more? Colonizing for about 15 days alredy.
How many of new woodchips should I take for this spawn?
Will it be a good idea to make outdoor patch with sterelized chips, cause they are dry and old and seem to have some other funfus on them.
I mean may it be dangerous to sterelize cips for use outdoor?
Maybe it is good idea to boil them for an our in water and then let`em dry a little?
Title: Re: azurescens
Post by: anno on April 02, 2006, 02:12:49 PM
You can use those for an outdoor patch as they are, yes. Although you might just wait for another week to spread the mycelium some more.

>Will it be a good idea to make outdoor patch with sterelized chips, cause they are dry
>and old and seem to have some other funfus on them.

Yes, you can do that also. Simply putting them in boiling water for 30 minutes and then straining and cooling down thouroughly should be enough.
Title: Re: azurescens
Post by: CyberBOB on April 04, 2006, 02:08:42 PM
Thanks!
I mean is there any difference can be important in using sterilized and pasterized wood?
Can it be more safe to pasterize them?
I make it with steam 65-75C two times for 6 hours.
Or it is not so critical to do, and simple boiling will do fine?
Title: Re: azurescens
Post by: anno on April 04, 2006, 11:26:25 PM
You don't need complete sterilization, you just want to diminish the amount of mycelium and spores that are already there.

Simple boiling is fine in this case.
Title: Re: azurescens
Post by: CyberBOB on April 05, 2006, 05:39:54 AM
Yeah, thats clear for me, thanks.
What do you think, will it be a good idea to inoculate a chunk (chuk) of alder with making a few holes in it and put a spawn in there? Have you ever tried this?
Title: Re: azurescens
Post by: anno on April 05, 2006, 10:23:29 AM
I haven't, but P. azurescens doesn't grow on logs in nature, it grows on thin branches and burried pieces of wood, thus, we take woodchips when we cultivate it.