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Mushroom cultivation => Cultivation => Topic started by: mustang1986 on August 09, 2009, 12:36:44 PM

Title: pins! pins!
Post by: mustang1986 on August 09, 2009, 12:36:44 PM
took about a week and a half but the finally pinned up ^_^ i was getting so aggravated lol. i was thinking of casing them after there first fuit can you do that?
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Post by: fungiguy on August 09, 2009, 12:39:11 PM
you want to case what after the first fruit? are they cakes??
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Post by: malabar on August 09, 2009, 01:05:38 PM
Mustang,
  What's the dealie,.......?  I thought these were casings you were waiting on,......   :huh:
   ~Malabar    :mellow: 
Title: Re: pins! pins!
Post by: Magic Money on August 09, 2009, 01:33:04 PM
If they are cakes, you shouldn't have a problem  casing them after the first flush. Just rinse them off well.
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Post by: malabar on August 09, 2009, 01:38:09 PM
Exactly,...  But I thought we were beyond this step,.........
    :huh:
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Post by: fungiguy on August 09, 2009, 02:26:01 PM
not me, malabar. the question came from mustang.
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Post by: malabar on August 09, 2009, 02:30:04 PM
Mustang,
  Sorry,....  My bad!    ^_^  Now you see why I will be on that plane to Puerto Rico tomorrow! 
  Time for a vacation,.......  from everything.  May not even bring my laptop!  lol
   ~Malabar    :mellow:
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Post by: fungiguy on August 09, 2009, 02:36:03 PM
puerto rico, good for you!!! are you taking the fruits of your labor with you?
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Post by: malabar on August 09, 2009, 02:50:12 PM
   Of course,.....  And I have a couple of cousins there that grow as well,...  So I hope to grab some of their wild prints while hanging with them.
    :ph34r:
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Post by: fungiguy on August 09, 2009, 02:56:06 PM
cool...speaking of prints, how do you do yours? haven't tried that avenue yet.
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Post by: malabar on August 09, 2009, 03:04:38 PM
Fungiguy,
  I suspend a cap over container of sterilized H2O.  Check the Shroomery,..  I am sure there are a few TEKs there.  Or, Fattrout is a "Big" print guy.  Reach out, I am sure he will point you in the right direction as well.
  ~Malabar   :mellow:
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Post by: fungiguy on August 09, 2009, 04:24:58 PM
yeah, i found the tek that has me using paper to print on. after the print dries, how do i transfer it to colonize?? can i just scrape some into a jar of grain?
Title: Re: pins! pins!
Post by: mustang1986 on August 09, 2009, 05:10:02 PM
mine are brf cakes. i didnt case them i just let then fruit as cakes i was wondering if i could case them after the first flush
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Post by: malabar on August 09, 2009, 05:24:19 PM
Mustang,
  You still have the opportunity to case the cakes.  However, i wouldn't suggest crumbling, for fear that the shock may be so great that the percentages of recovery may not be good. 
  At this stage, I believe you could continue your first flush, go on to your rinse, soak for a few hours, then go ahead and case.  Make sure that casing is really fluffy,.......  For good aeration. 
  You really don't want to create too many hurdles sense you are already changing the playing field.
  I realize this was probably an "after thought", but you should be prepared to allow your crops to flourish in a single setting, or environment, short of some sort of catastrophic event,.... 
  I would also allow some Extra time before you even see initial signs during the brief incubation period after casing.
  GL
     ~Malabar    :mellow:
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Post by: fattrout on August 10, 2009, 04:40:54 PM
fungiguy, i do prints two diffrent ways. i do the paper print when i want to store a print a long time... if i am going to use the spores right away, i will take a cap, put it in a 1/2 pint jar. leave it 2 days, remove the cap and add water to the jar, stir it up and suck it into a syringe... you can do the same with a paper print, just scrape the spores to the jar add water and suck with syringe....btw all this is done in a clean and sterile environment..
good luck, fattrout
Title: Re: pins! pins!
Post by: mustang1986 on August 10, 2009, 07:15:40 PM
(http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/3130/firstflush.jpg) (http://img44.imageshack.us/i/firstflush.jpg/)
 :ph34r:
first flush finally lol they been fruiting about three days now how they looking? i think there is gonna be quite a few aborts cuz the strain is penis envy but there popping up all over the cakes im so happy lol  -_-
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Post by: MT on August 10, 2009, 08:06:01 PM
Those are looking good. It won't be too many days until you'll harvest those fellas.
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Post by: mustang1986 on August 10, 2009, 08:12:24 PM
good  ^_^ how much you think will get wet? lol im exited cuz this is my first grow
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Post by: fattrout on August 10, 2009, 08:20:45 PM
hey mustang1986,  you lookin good. you should be pickin soon..... -_-
as for all those aborts, cakes are some times just unpredictable!!!!!
you may try to increase your FAE..
keep it up!!  :mellow:
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Post by: fattrout on August 10, 2009, 08:28:33 PM
"how much you think will get wet?" 
with cakes its hard to say. could be 25 gs+ wet  per cake, 1st flush. i had a cake give me 60gs once...  :ph34r:
Title: Re: pins! pins!
Post by: mustang1986 on August 10, 2009, 08:30:37 PM
i will do that what lighting schedule should i have on now i usually have them on five to 6 hours on
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Post by: fattrout on August 10, 2009, 08:46:16 PM
ahhh, that could be it?  i always go 12 on 12 off...  even tho everthing you read says
lite is not that big a deal.... i have noticed the opposite.. when i cut down lite time, my fruit would grow small and skinny.... ^_^
Title: Re: pins! pins!
Post by: mustang1986 on August 11, 2009, 01:04:31 PM
yeah i dont think i have had enough light on them cuz they are really small but they smell really good they have been fruiting about four days now how long till i should pick them?
Title: Re: pins! pins!
Post by: coyoteyogi on August 11, 2009, 01:45:11 PM
Wait until the veils are just beginning to tear off the bottom. If you let them go to "maturity" they tend to drop their spores in the FC.
Title: Re: pins! pins!
Post by: mustang1986 on August 11, 2009, 01:58:20 PM
i cant really tell if the veils are breaking off cuz there so small and the heads on this strand dont open up there supposed to look like penis's lol the strand is penis envy
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Post by: dub504 on August 11, 2009, 03:09:23 PM
Did you grow the penis envy on cakes? I didn't have great results that way. They didn't get very big at maturity. Got some going on grains now...
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Post by: mustang1986 on August 11, 2009, 03:31:09 PM
yeah mine are on cakes how big did yours turn out on cakes? and were they potent ?
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Post by: dub504 on August 11, 2009, 03:54:14 PM
I ate some of them fresh bc they were the first to grow, so I didn't really know how much I dosed myself with, (didn't eat enough.) I didn't have much left after dehydrating. I mixed them w B+. All was fine. I guess the verdict is still out for me on that strain. I gotta see how my popcorn turns out got some birdseed and millet going w a G2G. I'm sure they will be delicious.
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Post by: mustang1986 on August 11, 2009, 04:25:31 PM
yeah my veils have already breaking off they are really small but i have quite a few on two cakes and another cake is just finishing i am going to case all three and hopefully i will get a better crop
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Post by: coyoteyogi on August 11, 2009, 06:28:24 PM
I've got 4 bread pans of popcorn cased with PE. I'll post pics when I have something to show.
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Post by: room408 on August 11, 2009, 07:13:44 PM
malabar, just curious how you are bringing some shrooms with you. in chocolates or just dried or vacuum packed? and you just put it in your stow away luggage?

btw enjoyed the first fruits of my labor last night on the KSS.
Title: Re: pins! pins!
Post by: mustang1986 on August 12, 2009, 06:19:27 PM
first flush is harvested  ^_^ they are small but i got quite a few and they are devilishly potent  :wacko: lol ate three medium sized ones and had quite the trip will post picks of drying out later
Title: Re: pins! pins!
Post by: malabar on August 14, 2009, 11:31:23 AM
Mustang,
  Good showing!   ^_^  Sorry I missed your post while i was away.  I made a promise to leave the computer home, and didn't touch one other than to do some midi mixing with my boys in PR.
  I took 6oz dried with me, packed in 1 oz bags.  They were in vacuumed, seal-a-meal packets.  I just packed them with the checked bags like I always do.  They don't bother you at the customs going/coming from the mainland.  They need the business.  Tourists, and the US are the only source of income for the island.
    Everyone I know there had shrooms, so I came back with 2 oz, plus about 3 oz of wild caps! 
  Made a few sporeprints, so I guess I will have to share some with my boy Deadneck!  Those wild puppies were Stupilicious!   :rolleyes:
  ~Malabar   :mellow:
Title: Re: pins! pins!
Post by: Deadneck on August 14, 2009, 02:52:36 PM
Malabar,

Glad your trip was nice! You are a very generous and knowledgeable guy! You know I would love to get my hands on as many strains as possible. If I can do anything for you, just let me know and I'm there. I need to expand my operation (FC capacity) very soon. Looking to try a monotub(s) in order to save space, we'll see how that goes. I'm outta town this weekend will be back Monday morning, hit me up when you have a sec.

Later,
Deadneck