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Mushroom cultivation => Cultivation => Topic started by: jonny boy on September 18, 2009, 01:15:03 AM

Title: the saga begins....
Post by: jonny boy on September 18, 2009, 01:15:03 AM
so i just nocc up 7 jars (i went kinda over board with the syringe) of golden teachers about 5 mins ago keep you guys posted on this thread wish me good luck..
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Post by: dub504 on September 18, 2009, 03:56:02 AM
Awesome! Good Luck, you can do it!
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Post by: shroomzer on September 18, 2009, 09:19:14 PM
GL .. and like your pic! =)
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Post by: malabar on September 18, 2009, 10:06:00 PM
  Go Jonny boy,......Go Bro! 
    ~Malabar   :mellow:
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Post by: fattrout on September 19, 2009, 07:57:31 AM
jonny boy, get ready for that heat wave we have here in calli... it looks like we are going to see 100+ days for about a week.. shit i am getting ready to put 9 trays in the FCs. it looks like i'll be running the AC for a while.. shroomzer, you too get that AC on.... :mellow:
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Post by: shroomzer on September 21, 2009, 08:20:11 AM
Grrr .... the heat sucks ass for me and my little ones!!
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Post by: jonny boy on September 22, 2009, 10:14:14 AM
yeah baby... woke up today and found the first signs of growth.. not too much longer till i birth i hope
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Post by: jonny boy on September 24, 2009, 08:30:25 AM
so correct me if im wrong.. once 100% colonized wait a week for the colony to digest the substrate.. then after (solely speaking about golden teachers) do i wait for pinning in the jar or just go ahead and birth??
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Post by: cugak on September 24, 2009, 11:03:24 AM
Go ahead and birth!
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Post by: MT on September 24, 2009, 04:04:32 PM
Birth those cakes and then dunk and roll! You will soon be on your way to success.
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Post by: jonny boy on October 08, 2009, 11:05:04 AM
so today i finally reached 100% colonization on Sunday i will birth my babies only to drowned them in a bucket of water.. seems like it took a long time comparing to what ive been reading on here..
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Post by: darksyde on October 08, 2009, 11:20:10 AM
The time it takes to colonize varies from strain to strain.. My cambo's colonized pint jars in 6 days from innoc, but I have some mazatapec mexico's that I noc'd 2 1/2 weeks ago, and they still are'nt ready yet.. I would be interested on your updates with the GT's though, cuz I just got a syringe and will be trying those out soon as well.. It wont be long now though.. Nice Job
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Post by: jonny boy on October 15, 2009, 10:40:34 AM
so i finally have the cake soaking and will put them in the fc at 530 pm i put the perlite in the fc already i use one bag and its about 3 inches deep i have holes every 2 to 3 inches on the lid and bottom of the fc but im only getting 80% hum. the room temp is about 79 degrees. you think i should put more perlite to help with the r/h
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Post by: dub504 on October 15, 2009, 11:03:12 AM
Lower your temp... 74-77
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Post by: jonny boy on October 15, 2009, 11:27:44 AM
what if lowering the temp is not an option? i can only put a fan on and open the window an a/c is not an option either.. this sucks because i have limited resources
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Post by: malabar on October 15, 2009, 11:44:30 AM
Jonny boy,
  As Dub told you,....  That temp Does need to come down !    The only other option:   Leave it high and face an Increased risk of Contamination.
  Since you are growing Cubes,.. They will fruit in the most ridiculous of environments, ( even in the 90F range ).  But, those molds, yeasts and other greebies you have been so diligent about not having over for snacks, will be sitting in the FC with a knife, fork and spoon!  Just waiting to dig in.
  After you get that temperature under control, you could possibly tape off some of those holes at the top.  The CO2 is heavy, and with proper FAE, circulation or even fanning should be dispersed w/o problem down below.
  But, I would get focused on dropping the temps.  For real!
  Malabar    :mellow:
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Post by: jonny boy on October 15, 2009, 01:18:49 PM
i dont know shit about shit when it comes to shrooms.. but what about ice its cold, its wet, could that work
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Post by: malabar on October 15, 2009, 01:35:04 PM
Jonny boy,
  The concept you have is correct, unfortunately, unless you are able to build an Igloo or Ice House on the "outside" of the FC, you are dealing another dangerous hand.
  As much as we might like to believe that we have a nice "clean" place we are storing our food and munchies,......  The fridge is probably as contaminated as the average bathroom.  ( Just different germs, and greebies ) 
  The ice you would introduce to your FC may work to some degree, but, I don't think it worth the risk, myself.  Just My opinion.
  Sorry,.....
    ~Malabar   :mellow:
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Post by: jonny boy on October 15, 2009, 02:17:39 PM
so basically if it cant lower the temp. just say fuck and roll with it as it comes?? ill get a humidifier as soon as i can but that wont be for a couple days thanks to nomoredroughts i can make one fairly cheap hopefully it will raise the r/h but the temp i dont have any idea what i will do.. what about the perlite as i stated its about 3 inches deep should i put another half bag will that help some??   
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Post by: malabar on October 15, 2009, 02:30:23 PM
Jonny boy,
  Sorry to see you are kind of stuck,......   :angry:  And, I'm not even going to seek out your issue with "droughts". 
  But, IMO you shouldn't need to add anymore pearlite.  If you soaked it prior to placement, the most it might require would be a "kindly" mist now and again to kick it up to speed.
  I again would suggest tapping off a 1/2 of those holes at the top, and see where that takes you.  I have never had holes in or near my lids,....  only near the "surface level" of growth.
  >>  Of course, you will have to be aware, that in raising the rh in your warn environment, is Probably going to raise your Overall Temps.
  Out of curiosity,..  What's with the A/C?  If the FC is suffering, I'm sure you are too!
  ~Malabar   :mellow:
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Post by: jonny boy on October 15, 2009, 06:53:07 PM
well i have no working a/c so not much i can do there... would i be alright giving them just 4 hours of light cuz the light seems to dry out the perlite im using a a blue spectrum aquarium light
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Post by: malabar on October 15, 2009, 07:39:55 PM
Jonny boy,
  Sorry about your A/C dilemma,....  That has to Suck!    :huh:
 As for your lighting,....  Sure, you can cut down the cycle.  The lights are just a trigger to initiate pinning.   Unlike plants, your little ones are Not light dependent.  There is no internal chemical "exchange" by light absorbsion as in chlorophyll structured plants.
   They will generally grow out in the direction of the spectrum, but after the pins appear they do quite well with shorter cycles.   
  I might also, suggest moving the light a bit further away from the FC, since it sounds like it's incandescent, which produces heat.
   I hope this helps you a bit.
    Malabar   :mellow:
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Post by: jonny boy on October 22, 2009, 10:10:06 AM
fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck...fucken fuck.... well i guess im learning the fundamentals of what not to do.... black forest mold on all the cakes man that fucken sucks i knew i had to get that temp. down but there was nothing i could do at the moment now my grow room is contaminated too.. well back to the drawing boards..  dont worry guys jonny boy will figure this out and pull through.  fuck
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Post by: malabar on October 22, 2009, 10:42:03 AM
Jonny boy,
  Sorry to hear of your recent disaster!  And, as you stated,.....  You now have learned at least some of what Not to Do,.... 
  Stop fucking around,....  Get the bleach, Soap/Water and LYSOL out.  Get things clean, and get back in the game.
  You Can Do IT!
     ~Malabar   :mellow:
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Post by: shroomzer on October 25, 2009, 09:29:17 AM
Oh Jonny boy .. that sucks, but I have been there too!! Clean, Clean, Clean!~~!!
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Post by: Helo on December 02, 2009, 09:44:00 PM
Everytime I read this thread, I go and clean, lol. Makes me paranoid.  ^_^
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Post by: shroomzer on December 02, 2009, 09:47:03 PM
Haha Helo .. pretty soon you clean - it just becomes part of the daily routine .. at least for me.  A nice spraying the house of lysol too... man I love the smell of lysol~!
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Post by: Helo on December 02, 2009, 09:57:23 PM
Haha, I hear ya. I just keep cleaning things that are incredibly clean, lol. This hobby is making me clean ALOT more, and I havent even started yet. Im usually just an Organizing freak. Everything has to be set up perfectly and everything must be in the correct order, lol. At least its not a bad thing when it comes to this hobby. Wish I could get started with my first grow, but I am gonna be away for a bit (Laptop FTW), and I dont wanna leave them unattended...so...I wait...again...lol  ^_^

Wish I could just start already...lol
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Post by: cugak on December 03, 2009, 04:36:49 AM
U can leave them to incubate!
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Post by: kindel on December 04, 2009, 11:24:16 AM
OK i have learned this method from a friend and its great for keeping a steady temp . you get a small aquarium and an aquarium heater and put your jars in there with rocks or something heavy on top to keep them from floating make sure your lids are sealed well and that keeps your temp at 72 to 75 at all times here however is my issue i am a newbie at this and have already had one failed attempt pre-aquarium. the instructions i got on how to grow never mentioned putting holes in the lids of the jars (birdseed btw) and never said how long it should take to start seeing "fuzz" its been almost two weeks now since i started the process it told me to wait three days and mix the jars up to disperse the myc i did that on thanksgiving and still don't see any thing any advice btw i am trying pink buffalo this time.
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Post by: dub504 on December 04, 2009, 01:22:32 PM
Why not just use a cooler (it's insulated) w/ an aquarium heater in a glass of water. Or two totes, one with water and the heater and spacers of some sort and the other tote inside of the first one
This is worth a read if you haven't already.
http://www.fungifun.org/English/Importance-Of-Gas-Exchange (http://www.fungifun.org/English/Importance-Of-Gas-Exchange)
You might wait three days after a G2G to redistribute the myc. If you are starting from spores, I would think it would take a little longer.