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Title: Operation Shroomsday
Post by: -CAP KING- on February 02, 2010, 02:46:20 PM
Yo yo werd up breverins!

Today is a special day for me..... my spores arrived!
I now have everything i need (i think) to start up the operation.
I made a sexy lil sheet for you guys to look at with all my equipment on.
Please comment on my purchases and advice needed about incubating; I couldn't anywhere i could buy taperless jars cheap so i'm guessing i can air tight the drinking glasses?

(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1889/equipmentsmall.jpg)

cheers geezers!
Title: Re: Operation Shroomsday
Post by: lun0s on February 02, 2010, 03:48:30 PM
Looking good. Hope to see some more pics later bro :)
Title: Re: Operation Shroomsday
Post by: ImAFungi on February 02, 2010, 05:39:30 PM
Looks like you got all the fixin's. Def post some picks :ph34r:

           -ImAFungi
Title: Re: Operation Shroomsday
Post by: -CAP KING- on February 02, 2010, 05:45:29 PM
Don't worry boys,
I'll keep you up to date with every stage! and plus i need help, being a first timer n all....

muchos respecto
Title: Re: Operation Shroomsday
Post by: fattrout on February 02, 2010, 05:46:05 PM
yeah your ready!! when you get a chance look for a digital hygrometer. they work much better... :mellow:
Title: Re: Operation Shroomsday
Post by: -CAP KING- on February 03, 2010, 08:10:55 AM
note taken fattrout.

what about these glasses then? how can i fasten a lid for them which will survive the pressure cooker? im thinking a couple of layers of tin foil?
Title: Re: Operation Shroomsday
Post by: MT on February 03, 2010, 04:42:40 PM
Right. Just use two layers of foil. Then remove the top layer for inoculation. Good luck!
Title: Re: Operation Shroomsday
Post by: -CAP KING- on February 03, 2010, 05:21:01 PM
cheers mate. no tape or nothing you rekon?
Title: Re: Operation Shroomsday
Post by: Psychonought on February 03, 2010, 08:57:16 PM
Hey hows it going cap king? About the drinking glasses....it might be easier to just get some half pint mason jars, especially with brown rice flour/verm method. They're cheap and I would bet pretty easy to come by, online or in store.  It would suck to prep it all, just to see that some taped/foiled seal broke.  Just an idea. Good luck man, peace  :ph34r:
Title: Re: Operation Shroomsday
Post by: MT on February 03, 2010, 09:17:01 PM
If you mean taping the foil on, it probably wouldn't hold up to well in your PC or to the boiling water sterilization method either for that matter. If you mean using micropore tape to cover the resulting holes after inoculation, it couldn't hurt but the layer of pure verm on the top is there to provide a barrier for contaminants. I hope this helps.
Title: Re: Operation Shroomsday
Post by: Helo on February 04, 2010, 12:55:29 AM
Looking good Cap King.  -_-

Good Luck on your grow.  ^_^
Title: Re: Operation Shroomsday
Post by: -CAP KING- on February 04, 2010, 06:19:11 AM
Yeh, im really concerned about using these Glasses now. Is there anyone from the UK with a good online source for cheap mason jars?
Help me out lads, i wanna get this op. on the go so i can reap the rewards before i have to go home for easter! Hahaha

thanks for the help tho guys.
Title: Re: Operation Shroomsday
Post by: -CAP KING- on February 04, 2010, 07:44:43 AM
Right, so ive found 2 suppliers for the type of jars i want; one has taperless jars the right size but does a minimum of 24 jars per order and im not paying 50 for glass jars!
The other has jars for 89p each but they have a slight taper. Can someone tell me from experience how flexible the cakes are when removing from the jars?
Here's the link for jars i'm hovering over at the moment. Please tell me if the taper is too big or will be fine.

http://www.preserveshop.co.uk/glass-jam-jars/round-jars/round-jar-454ml?cPath=1_52

cheers peeps.
Title: Re: Operation Shroomsday
Post by: MT on February 04, 2010, 04:37:15 PM
You won't be able to extract the cakes from those jars without tearing them up. The glasses that you were going to use will work fine IMO.
Title: Re: Operation Shroomsday
Post by: Helo on February 05, 2010, 11:51:17 PM
Yea, MT is right. Those jars won't work for cakes. It will be a real problem trying to birth them, and that's just going to ruin all your hard work. They would work for grains, however. I would just use the glasses like MT said, they seem to be fine.  ^_^

As for the 24 pack of jars, it could be a good investment in the long run. You can use 12 jars for cakes, and have 12 jars leftover for making prints for new syringes. Or, you could start 12 new cakes and have a nice constant flow of colonized cakes. Just a suggestion. Good Luck Cap King.   ^_^
Title: Re: Operation Shroomsday
Post by: -CAP KING- on February 07, 2010, 02:09:35 PM
I think you're right Helo. Im gonna make the investment of the jars, they do look like really nice ones. Have a lil looky http://www.jbconline.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_6&products_id=12
Title: Re: Operation Shroomsday
Post by: -CAP KING- on February 09, 2010, 12:37:26 PM
Hi again,
I received my jars today; 23 ok, 1 broken.
(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/3043/glassjar.jpg)

I was just about to start making my substrate when i realised i need distilled water!
Where can i get this stuff from in the UK? And what about deionised water?
Help me please.
Title: Re: Operation Shroomsday
Post by: moorhS on February 09, 2010, 02:59:25 PM
making your subtrate I don't think it really matters unless you have some really nasty water. . .  I use out of the tap (although I do have spring water) if nothing else just boil some of your water and walla! distilled :)
Title: Re: Operation Shroomsday
Post by: -CAP KING- on February 09, 2010, 03:17:24 PM
I just bought some de-ionised water from the garage. Apparently this is very similar to distilled water. moorS, boiled water is different to distilled water, you need a bit more lab equipment to distill. But if tap water has worked i get your point. I'm gonna use the de-ionised water now, i have 2 litres of it.
Title: Re: Operation Shroomsday
Post by: MT on February 09, 2010, 04:59:57 PM
Tap water will work OK unless it is so bad you can't drink it. Remember, you are putting the jars in a PC that is going to sterilize everything anyway.
Title: Re: Operation Shroomsday
Post by: -CAP KING- on February 09, 2010, 06:19:47 PM
Right!
So tonight i have made my substrate, sterilized and innoculated 3 jars, (as i could only fit 3 jars in the PC, i rekon i'll do 3 jars a night until i have 12).
I was very careful to make everything sterile using a small bathroom, bleach spray and alcohol to clean.
(http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/9159/innoculatedjars.jpg)

I was going to incubate the jars in the airing cupboard (20*C - 30*C) but in my manual says they need indirect light? So they're sitting on top on my tv at the moment and my room really isn't warm enough (20*C).
Any Suggestions?
Title: Re: Operation Shroomsday
Post by: -CAP KING- on February 09, 2010, 06:28:22 PM
Experimenting teaches you lessons.
Don't put your PC on your carpet to cool down!
Shit man, that's my deposit gone.
(http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/3410/pcmeltb.jpg)

Hopefully it will all be worth it, by the way the cubensis spores i'm using is...
   
  - MESTIZO -
(http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/3866/madalchemist.jpg)


Title: Re: Operation Shroomsday
Post by: lun0s on February 09, 2010, 07:19:03 PM
if nothing else just boil some of your water and walla! distilled :)
If I'm not mistaken distilled is pure H2O, not just clean water.
Title: Re: Operation Shroomsday
Post by: MT on February 09, 2010, 08:12:46 PM
Uhh, they have to incubate in the dark. I don't know where you came up with the indirect light stuff, but it sounds like you may need to study up some on your TEk. Why would anyone with any amount of common sense place a hot cooking vessel on carpet to cool off? Use your head man that's one of the reasons you have one (the big one that is).
Title: Re: Operation Shroomsday
Post by: ImAFungi on February 09, 2010, 08:27:16 PM
Yea man put them in a shoe box and somewhere clean and warm and you're set.

         -ImAFungi
Title: Re: Operation Shroomsday
Post by: dub504 on February 09, 2010, 09:05:41 PM
Distilled water is water that is boiled to steam and when the steam recondenses it has been distilled or when a dehumidifier is used, the water that collects in the pan would also be a distilled form of water.
Title: Re: Operation Shroomsday
Post by: moorhS on February 09, 2010, 10:04:15 PM
thank you dub u so smart haha. . . .  so I was partly right ( lol small part) but boiled water is as good as distilled :) but spring is best
Title: Re: Operation Shroomsday
Post by: -CAP KING- on February 10, 2010, 06:54:38 AM
yes yes i know it was dumb.
As for my knowledge of tek, this is the first time ive tried it and i don't know anyone who's done it, so my only resource is online tutorials (which often contradict) and you guys!
Title: Re: Operation Shroomsday
Post by: MT on February 10, 2010, 05:17:44 PM
That's OK CAP, we all had to travel the same roads to success. Just keep trying and continue to study. Use the search function on this site to help yourself to information that has already been discussed. Once you get a few grows behind you you will realize how simple this really is. I had several failures before I succeeded.