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Well, you must have had some intuition going on there because it turns out the species I was looking for IS the Panaeolus Cyanescens (also called Copelandia Cyanescens so I read/hear).

I just got off the phone with an employee at a big smart shop here in Amsterdam and he assures me the Panaeolus Cyanescens is the one that used to be sold in stores under the "Hawaiian" name. And those are the ones I want.

I checked out some pictures here: and that's exactly what the mushrooms looked like that you could buy back then.

So, back to the drawing board.

I read the guides you posted. These will need higher than room temperature as opposed to the Psilocybe Cyanescens and dung to grow on. Growing them outside is out of the question in this climate.

Ready made things are more expensive yes, but time is money... making it cheaper if you lead a busy life. Maybe I should just befriend some local grower growing them for personal use...


I meant Psilocybe Cyanescens and also Psilocybe Azurescens. I forgot a sec there also is a Panaeolus with the same name.

As far as I can see both these Psilocybe kinds grow on wood.

I have read many guides such as: and

At the moment I also have one of those "almost ready" boxes ( with a Cubensis strain to orient myself a bit and see how it works, but I'm not really interested in those strains.

The beginning phases are practically the same for all I see, with the sterility of course being especially important.

Have you ever grown the ones that I want to grow? Is there any difference between growing it on wood in a hole in the ground and growing it in an undeep flower pot on the balcony?

I started to get interested in growing these mushrooms about one year ago, but always felt, after learning about the not so simple process, that investing the time and money was not worth it. It is easier to walk into a store every few months to buy it (as truffles are still legal in the Netherlands). But I have to say it has started to interest me more, eventhough I simply do not have the time to experiment with this a lot.

Since I live in the Netherlands there are many of these "almost ready" kits. For example there are also Azurescens and Cyanescens "spawn bags" sold at certain times of the year. Those are bags filled with colonized wood chips. One can just mix those with wood chips in your garden instantly. That might be a nice shortcut for people with little time. What do you think?

Hi there!

Recently I have become more interested in mushroom growing.

I used cyanescens about every 3 or 4 months when it was still legal in the Netherlands and later switched to the very potent truffels you can buy here now (in practice not much of a difference).

Now I have the idea to grow these cyanescens myself to not be depended on stores and law. I've read many guides and know about how it has to grow on wood and how cultivation is difficult.

My question is would it work if I buy large undeep flowerpots and fill these with woodchips put them on my balcony and grow them in there? Maybe with a thin layer of leaves and earth on the woodchips also. My guess is this will work, from what I gather, but would like to hear the opinion of someone with experience in this.

I actually do have access to nice natural areas, but can not be sure of no meddling there.

Would love to hear anyone's thoughts on this.

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