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Mushroom cultivation => Cultivation => Topic started by: CerpinTaxt on May 13, 2007, 05:58:52 PM

Title: bulk without the bulk
Post by: CerpinTaxt on May 13, 2007, 05:58:52 PM
is there any way using the PF cake method i can do semi-bulk production?
i don't have the means to do others
should i just make a crazy amount of casings with 10-12 cakes in them or what?
any one have any ideas
Title: Re: bulk without the bulk
Post by: anno on May 14, 2007, 01:57:23 AM
You could crumble the colonized cakes and spawn pasteurized straw with them.

Other than that, the PF Tek is not exactly meant to be a bulk tek, but a mini scale cultivation tek.
Title: Re: bulk without the bulk
Post by: Myc on May 14, 2007, 08:06:30 PM
I recently had a pf cake which had colonized to 50% and then stalled.  Ever the experimenter, I put the cake into my glovebox and split the colonized half between two pc'd grain jars I had hanging around waiting to be innoculated.  The grain jars colonized completely in around 5 days!!!  The grains are cased in bread pans and in the fc right now.  Got access to horse manure?  I have some pasturized h-poo and cow poo cooling in the bathtub right now.   I saw Anno suggest pasturized straw as well.  Maybe some more details of your limitations would be helpful.
Title: Re: bulk without the bulk
Post by: CerpinTaxt on May 14, 2007, 08:33:19 PM
i have a small one bedroom apartment and i really can't have racks of manure hanging out
i can try the straw idea but i really don't know how to go about doing that
i have heard rye berries work well though
help?
Title: Re: bulk without the bulk
Post by: Myc on May 15, 2007, 06:53:53 AM
This looks like a simple straw tek:  http://www.shroomery.org/8392/Straw-as-a-Substrate  .  I hope this helps you.  In obtaining straw,  I will share one of my mistakes.  I bought hay from a pet supply store thinking it would be just as good as straw.  Apparently hay is LOADED with molds and endospores and difficult to use in a substrate where straw is more easily cleaned up by pasturization.  I had some contamination problems with dactylium and really created some problems for myself.  I'm still trying the straw as a bulking agent in cow poo but I used a bleach dunk idea (1 1/4 tbsp per gal of water submerged hay in solution overnight) to see if the contams could be cleaned up and the nutritional value left intact.  Guess I'll know in a few days.  If it doesn't work.......anyone got a rabbit that needs some hay?

I have read about people buying straw from Michael's craft stores.  It comes in little bales and costs $3-$4.  I use laundry bags for delicates (Woolite brand) to pasturize with.  Available @ Wal-Mart.
Title: Re: bulk without the bulk
Post by: Baphom3t on May 15, 2007, 07:44:42 AM
CerpinTaxt,
You could also get aluminum 2quart trays or bread tins and add a few cakes to them and case 60/40 verm/coir.
Sumwhat like you see here >>> http://www.fungifun.org/English/Casing
not sure what your FC is i.e Martha,TiT,etc.
as Anno said pf tek is not for bulk.
Title: Re: bulk without the bulk
Post by: CerpinTaxt on May 15, 2007, 09:16:55 PM
i will test my luck with the straw teks
i will make some huge casings till then
they produce some good amounts of shrooms if i load em with cakes
thanks for the help