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Mushroom cultivation => Cultivation => Topic started by: mustang1986 on July 31, 2009, 03:17:27 PM

Title: humidity problem
Post by: mustang1986 on July 31, 2009, 03:17:27 PM
the humidity in my fc is droppin to 90 and i have misted but its not helping what should i do?
Title: Re: humidity problem
Post by: dub504 on July 31, 2009, 04:32:54 PM
mustang, what's your fc setup, temp? How often are you opening it?
Title: Re: humidity problem
Post by: mustang1986 on July 31, 2009, 04:42:11 PM
its a tubberwear container with about 5 holes in it but i open it about two to three times. the temp is about 75 to 78. i try to keep it closer to 75 though but it just has perlite in it. there is still condensation on all sides of tubberwear
Title: Re: humidity problem
Post by: nomoredroughts on July 31, 2009, 04:57:11 PM
i don't trust hydrometer. i had 2 digital that wouldn't go above 90% and a dial that wouldn't go above 75%. so i did the salt test with th dial an it only read 50%.so no when its in my f.c. reading 75% i know im in the zone
Title: Re: humidity problem
Post by: nomoredroughts on July 31, 2009, 04:59:51 PM
and if you ever take notice the next time you're in the pet store look at the ones they sell a whole shel of them an they all read  a different reading :huh:
Title: Re: humidity problem
Post by: dub504 on July 31, 2009, 05:04:36 PM
So, you just fan for FAE?
Title: Re: humidity problem
Post by: mustang1986 on July 31, 2009, 05:26:00 PM
lol whats FAE mean? i have been looking at the poor mans pod but i dont know where to get the materials or how to build it. should i just mist the hell out of my perlite?
Title: Re: humidity problem
Post by: dub504 on July 31, 2009, 06:06:42 PM
FAE = Fresh Air Exchange... It sounds like your FC is pretty wet in there. Your hydrometer may not be working properly. If it is the type that can be calibrated you can wrap it in a wet towel for an hour and calibrate it. The Perlite should be moist, you don't want it sitting in water like soup it won't wick the moisture correctly.
    I use a poor mans pod. You can get the bubble wands and air pump at a pet supply store. It keeps the humidity constant and exchanges the air. I don't have to fan, but I do occasionally. I just put my casings in and away they go. Cakes do fine as well.
Title: Re: humidity problem
Post by: mustang1986 on July 31, 2009, 06:32:52 PM
my hydrometer probably just sucks cuz it was really cheap lol but thank i will try the poor mans pod next with my kreepers. how many half pint jars can i innoculate with one syringe ? i used almost a whole syringe for three pint jars. i also think i might case my last jar of penis envy just to see the difference in casing them and just letting the cakes fruit them selves
Title: Re: humidity problem
Post by: dub504 on July 31, 2009, 07:10:51 PM
It doesn't take much. Just observe the water/spores run down the side of the jar to the bottom in four spots. You're going the Brown Rice Flour route?
Title: Re: humidity problem
Post by: coyoteyogi on August 01, 2009, 01:17:19 AM
If you get your spores from Earthstongue you get 20cc in your syringe. I've had good results with them, others on this board_ not so much. They have a variety called "storm chasers" that is a very aggressive colonizer. My tubs have yet to fruit.
Title: Re: humidity problem
Post by: mustang1986 on August 01, 2009, 07:35:05 AM
yes im using brf. i have had my cakes fruiting for 3 days now and no sign of pins. shouldn't they be pinning by now
Title: Re: humidity problem
Post by: room408 on August 01, 2009, 08:32:31 AM
me and magic money have the same dilemma right now... its our first grow so we are just hoping the magic will happen soon. i hope we are not developing stroma. if there isn.t any progress in the next couple of days we will probably post some pics again for a diagnosis.
Title: Re: humidity problem
Post by: mustang1986 on August 01, 2009, 09:18:19 AM
all mine has on it is this white fuzz stuff idk if its mycelium or what
Title: Re: humidity problem
Post by: dub504 on August 01, 2009, 10:04:22 AM
Be patient. These things take time. You really should post pics.
Title: Re: humidity problem
Post by: room408 on August 01, 2009, 01:57:20 PM
the ones on the left went in thursday and the others on friday i believe. or maybe wed and thu. it's written down at magic moneys house my bad on that. hopefully some pins will form in the next couple of days. i don't think it looks like stroma. in the mushroom cultivator, from what i could tell from the pics, stroma was thicker (hard looking) and flat. on these the myc still looks webby and is becoming bumpy.       for anyone who has had trouble with casings where do the problems occur? (these are brf btw)

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Title: Re: humidity problem
Post by: room408 on August 01, 2009, 01:58:58 PM
sorry about the links. i wish i knew how to put these pics right into the text of the posts to make it easier to look at for you
Title: Re: humidity problem
Post by: shroomzer on August 01, 2009, 02:28:05 PM
ROOM - photobucket .. get them there copy the IMG code and paste it into your post and wha-la pictures instead of links!
Title: Re: humidity problem
Post by: room408 on August 01, 2009, 02:36:35 PM
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Title: Re: humidity problem
Post by: room408 on August 01, 2009, 02:37:32 PM
BOOM BABY!! thanks a lot shroomzer
Title: Re: humidity problem
Post by: dub504 on August 01, 2009, 04:49:13 PM
how exactly is that plastic wrap placed in the FC? Is it in the pans or underneath them? I can't really make out that detail.
Title: Re: humidity problem
Post by: room408 on August 01, 2009, 07:50:04 PM
its just lining the pans. i read that myc might eat the aluminum. we have some not lined in the incubator now waiting to enter the FC
Title: Re: humidity problem
Post by: Deadneck on August 02, 2009, 04:17:27 AM
The one's on the left may be suffering from overlay. I haven't had to deal with it before, but it's when the myc grows through the casing material and forms a layer on top. Look into it on Shroomery for solutions and wait for other opinions here. I may be wrong it's just my observation.

Title: Re: humidity problem
Post by: room408 on August 02, 2009, 08:17:17 AM
what is the avg for trays to start fruiting once in the FC? those pics are from day 4
Title: Re: humidity problem
Post by: room408 on August 02, 2009, 09:13:43 AM
rom reading about overlay. i can't see our conditions allowing it. the hottest the FC gets is 78 and that's not everyday we open the FC a couple times a day on top of using the tropic air. and the humidity stays in the mid 90s.
Title: Re: humidity problem
Post by: mustang1986 on August 02, 2009, 09:41:30 AM
(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8875/mold.jpg) (http://img20.imageshack.us/i/mold.jpg/)


yeah thats what my cakes are getting. that white fuzz stuff on the tops and the bottom i dont know if you can see it but its growing bigger and still no pins  :angry:  any idea what it is or whats going wrong
Title: Re: humidity problem
Post by: mustang1986 on August 02, 2009, 09:57:32 AM
(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8875/mold.jpg) (http://img20.imageshack.us/i/mold.jpg/)

here is the other cake it has it too  :huh:
Title: Re: humidity problem
Post by: nomoredroughts on August 02, 2009, 11:02:35 AM
that hydrometer in that pic is the digital i was having problems with(walmart special)
Title: Re: humidity problem
Post by: nomoredroughts on August 02, 2009, 11:05:09 AM
my cakes get the same why.but soon you should see bright little lumps in the fuzz and thats where the pins will pop
Title: Re: humidity problem
Post by: mustang1986 on August 02, 2009, 11:56:43 AM
oh yeah that is def a walmart special lol sucks balls but i hope thats what it is. i am gonna invest in the poor mans pod next grow and alot better hydrometer to lol. im just gonna judge this round on the precipitation and how wet it looks. the temperature doesnt get below 72 or above 75 so i should be fine with that
Title: Re: humidity problem
Post by: malabar on August 02, 2009, 09:02:48 PM
Mustang,
  Go to your neighborhood pet store, and grab a Fluker's hygrometer.  They are programmable, display Celsius, and Fahrenheit, and are very accurate in reading/displaying your RH.
  They run about $15.00  - $20.00, but you won't have problems.
     ~Malabar   :mellow:
Title: Re: humidity problem
Post by: shroomzer on August 03, 2009, 05:48:00 AM
I have had the Flukers .. tossed three of them, due to moisture getting inside them.  I now have one that has the digital reader outside and the sensor is on a wire that goes into the unit.  I can't remember the brand name got it at petsmart.  Works well with no problems.
Title: Re: humidity problem
Post by: mustang1986 on August 03, 2009, 07:15:45 AM
so my cakes still look normal? they have been fruiting for five days now and still no pins just white fuzz :huh:
Title: Re: humidity problem
Post by: malabar on August 03, 2009, 07:35:10 AM
Mustang,
  They look fine,.....  They have been in your FC, not actually fruiting yet.  I would give them a "gentle" mist, and leave them alone for a day or so.  A watched pot doesn't boil!    lol
    ~Malabar   :mellow: